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when will people realise that calzaghe is a chancer! with respect to other bloggers, the only people who big him up are guys in the UK, not all may i add, there are plenty of UK guys who share my opinion. The bottom line is; if your anyway good, the americans seek you out. If your a chancer, the americans see through you and consequently dont come knocking on your door. After 5,10,15 defences, the guys across the pond didnt come battering down his door. That tells a story in itself. dont get me wrong, he comes across a nice guy and talented no doubt, but an all-time great? There are guys who werent even champions who would have eaten him for breakfast. Bobby watts, Willie munroe to name a few. Even Eubank pre Watson would have done enough and hes another WBO (world british organisation) 'champ'
So you get atleast a top 5 guy in your division at anytime who's defended one of the main titles 10,15 times... he's not real... he's a 'chancer', if you were confident that you could beat him and he was nothing then why wouldn't you fight him?

With some of the nobodys that Jones etc padded their record with are you honestly telling me that travelling to a guys backyard (or even asking him over) who is an established reigning champion (and some how an easy win) wouldn't make sense?

Retarded logic
No question,your right. A lot do have padded records but Calzaghe ripped the arse clean out of it. You have reaffirmed by belief that only the UK big him up. Yes he beat Jones and Hopkins but you also fail to mention that it was a washed up jones and a 40plus hopkins. I have seen with my own eyes Calzaghe saying that jones was finished 4 or 5yrs ago and then within weeks when he signed to fight him saying that jones was still a force!!! You may be taken in with that but im certainly not. Thats nothing short of insulting peoples intelligence by asking them to fork out to see that. As for Lacy,do you honestly think lacy was good? Jones made a fool of him a few weeks back. Won every round and was talking to the crowd too. Thats how good lacy is. Why didnt JC fight jones 7 or 8yrs ago? Why didnt he fight Hopkins 7 or 8yrs ago? I'll tell you why, because he was too busy 'defending' against 3rd rate fighters and taking the easy money which,truthfully, i dont blame him for doing. The bottom line is to get in,get your money and get out without being hurt and fair play to him, thats what he done. But if you go down that route of constant soft defences, you cannot claim to be an alltime great. Im sure you'll agree with me on that at least. Look,its just my opinion and thats what this is all about. Im sure you have a different one and thats why we love this sport.


what the fuck are you talking about?

All I said that your theory that American boxers didn't want to come over to fight him because they saw through him is a stupid one... That's the issue... I appreciate the tirade but if you're not even talking in relation to what I said then don't quote me.

I'll repeat: if Calzaghe was see through and a masquarader then he wouldn't have been 'over looked', quite the opposite: if he was legit and the top guys knew they could beat him then he would of had people knocking on his door wanting to get credit for traveling and beating a reigning champion.

Don't act like the top Americans at the time weren't taking easy fights and didn't want to fight Calzaghe because they only wanted to fight the best elite fighters - you and me both know that for every top fighter Jones/hopkins/toney fought that there would be at least one padded fighter to guy with it, they were pretty keen to fight easy fights that the public hadn't even heard of but for some reason they didn't want to fight another reigning champ?

Sure Calzaghe has also fought his share of nobodies too, but to say that he was avoided because guys who were happy to fight the likes of Ricky Stackhouse, Larry Prather, steve frank etc (all of them also known as 'who?') would rather fight those guys than get credit for beating a ranked, reigning, undefeated belt holder that supposably wasn't on their level (ie: a win in the bank) is just stupid.

prime for prime I think that hopkins and jones are better than calzaghe... but the logic you're using for why top americans didn't want to fight him is just stupid.