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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    when its used as blatant as floyd its indeed as illegal as pacquiaos constant use of his head.

    hatton actually took the piss out of floyd in one of the 24/7 episodes for constantly throwing his forearm into combinations almost as if it was routine for him.

    Used it all night against hatton and cortez amazingly didnt happen to spot it once
    hahaha some one is bitter about the two thrashings Hatton took, and Mayweather doesn't throw the forearm, he uses it to push his opponent off of him then follow up with a left hook or lead right, think too much is being made of this, he's done it his whole career so don't get why people are bitching now, and this is coming from a guy who was accused of being a "hater" just a couple days ago by JT lol

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    I think the reason that PBF doesn't get called out on it in the ring is he actually takes a step back so when his opponents rush in. they run into it.
    I'm not saying this makes it right, but it games the system into a gray area.
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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    It can be pretty flagrant.In an ideal world refs would enforce the rules right down the middle.And John Ruiz would have 20 DQ losses for excessive holding

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    it's not like PBF swings the elbow.

    it's up to the refs to catch that shit. anyway, hatton-tszyu was downright disgraceful.

    at the end of the day, PBF doesn't win b/c he uses forearms. it's because he's better than his opponent.

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    it's not like PBF swings the elbow.

    it's up to the refs to catch that shit. anyway, hatton-tszyu was downright disgraceful.

    at the end of the day, PBF doesn't win b/c he uses forearms. it's because he's better than his opponent.
    Whats the need for it then? It must help him or he would never do it. Floyd ducks below the belt a hell of a lot and uses forearm/elbow often but it's up to the ref to pick up on it. To be fair it's not like he is butting and throwing low blows in there he is just bending rules rather than breaking them. If that makes sense.

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    it's not like PBF swings the elbow.

    it's up to the refs to catch that shit. anyway, hatton-tszyu was downright disgraceful.

    at the end of the day, PBF doesn't win b/c he uses forearms. it's because he's better than his opponent.
    Whats the need for it then? It must help him or he would never do it. Floyd ducks below the belt a hell of a lot and uses forearm/elbow often but it's up to the ref to pick up on it. To be fair it's not like he is butting and throwing low blows in there he is just bending rules rather than breaking them. If that makes sense.
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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    it's not like PBF swings the elbow.

    it's up to the refs to catch that shit. anyway, hatton-tszyu was downright disgraceful.

    at the end of the day, PBF doesn't win b/c he uses forearms. it's because he's better than his opponent.
    Whats the need for it then? It must help him or he would never do it. Floyd ducks below the belt a hell of a lot and uses forearm/elbow often but it's up to the ref to pick up on it. To be fair it's not like he is butting and throwing low blows in there he is just bending rules rather than breaking them. If that makes sense.
    all great fighters have a dirty trick up their sleeve
    So true, my favourite dirty trick is used by Ricky Hatton -- Keeping his laces loose so that when he is close to being knocked the fugg out by a light fisted puncher (i.e. Lazcano) he can catch a breather

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Floyd ducks below the belt a hell of a lot and uses forearm/elbow often but it's up to the ref to pick up on it. To be fair it's not like he is butting and throwing low blows in there he is just bending rules rather than breaking them. If that makes sense.
    yeah i forgot about that one.

    I dunno... it just gets to me how the ref never pick's up on these things even though he always does it so blatantly.

    If i were his opponent, i'd make suc a meal out of it. In fact, id pre warn the ref during the pre-fight breifing.
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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Just about all of top fighters in boxing do something illegal as part of their strategy. Holding and hitting, headbutting, low blows, arm locks... you name it someone using it as part of their technique.
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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    when its used as blatant as floyd its indeed as illegal as pacquiaos constant use of his head.

    hatton actually took the piss out of floyd in one of the 24/7 episodes for constantly throwing his forearm into combinations almost as if it was routine for him.

    Used it all night against hatton and cortez amazingly didnt happen to spot it once
    hahaha some one is bitter about the two thrashings Hatton took, and Mayweather doesn't throw the forearm, he uses it to push his opponent off of him then follow up with a left hook or lead right, think too much is being made of this, he's done it his whole career so don't get why people are bitching now, and this is coming from a guy who was accused of being a "hater" just a couple days ago by JT lol
    Good posting Elterrible, too much is being made of this. It all depends on the ref too.

    Vic Draculic took a point away from Mayweather in the Castillo fight for excessive forearm usage to the distain of Larry Merchant. Larry Merchant went ballistic at the ref.

    Again, this is boxing, not tiddlywinks. You get away with what you can on your way to victory. If something is done obviously and excessively in front of the ref, then of course points should be taken away but a great, experienced boxer will know when and where to do these things without getting caught.

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    when its used as blatant as floyd its indeed as illegal as pacquiaos constant use of his head.

    hatton actually took the piss out of floyd in one of the 24/7 episodes for constantly throwing his forearm into combinations almost as if it was routine for him.

    Used it all night against hatton and cortez amazingly didnt happen to spot it once
    hahaha some one is bitter about the two thrashings Hatton took, and Mayweather doesn't throw the forearm, he uses it to push his opponent off of him then follow up with a left hook or lead right, think too much is being made of this, he's done it his whole career so don't get why people are bitching now, and this is coming from a guy who was accused of being a "hater" just a couple days ago by JT lol
    Well, yes, mayweather would throw a "str8 right or a left hook" I mean he doesn't really throw anything else, does he? And I have long since complained about his elbows in fights. He was penalized in the first Castillo fight for it and never since. He got away from it for a while, but he was right back at it bad with DLH. I was shocked Cortez was letting Floyd get away with that much in Hatton's fight.

    So why should we not be pissed if he's done it his whole career? Is there anything this guy has done right? Mayweather is so respectable as a person, family man, fighter, competitor, crowd pleaser, and cash cow. I love him like the morning dew in the desert. He breathes new life into boxing. I think he is a really good role model, too.

    I think Kessler called him out for his next fight at SMW. Floyd will take the fight. He never dodges anyone.
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    Seriously.. I think the dirtiest fight I've seen recently is Chris Henry and Yousef Mack.

    Henry is one dirty SOB! But tough tough tough.
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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    ALL of the greatest fighters cheated, most of them were smart enough to do it an not get penalized for it. And really you can't say they cheated it's more they bent the rules exceptionally well.

    At least he doesn't use the forearm like Tyson (where it's into your throat) or like Marciano (where he tries to knock you out with it, see the Archie Moore fight, Rocky hit him with EVERYTHING)

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ALL of the greatest fighters cheated, most of them were smart enough to do it an not get penalized for it. And really you can't say they cheated it's more they bent the rules exceptionally well.

    At least he doesn't use the forearm like Tyson (where it's into your throat) or like Marciano (where he tries to knock you out with it, see the Archie Moore fight, Rocky hit him with EVERYTHING)

    Yeah Mike if he missed the punch he landed the forearm for sure

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    Default Re: Is use of the Forearm Illegal or not?

    Is this legal? Almost below the fucking knee lol. What sort of punch do you employ to land in this situation? a 'downer cut'?
    Last edited by Kel; 09-24-2009 at 08:14 PM.

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