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triumphant return? he barely beat a shot fighter who was basically totally outclassed in his last fight against Katsidis and didn't listen to reason and retire, it was an extremely close fight as Jaz was saying and given the condition that Chavez is in now, that's not saying anything good for Diaz, he's garbage, and always has been garbage, any top 15 lightweight beats the shit out of him, how he is out of the ring has nothing to do with his abilities in the ring (which aren't many), it's brought up because while others are accused of cherry picking (Mayweather, Klitschko's, DLH, etc.), Pacquiao always is given an excuse (i say given cause it's usually not coming from him), 2 of his last 3 opponents have been cherry picked (a shot weight drained DLH, and the garbage that is David Diaz), and that's the point i'm making, now get off your high horse it has nothing to do with Morales, i don't bitch and make excuses for his losses, nor do i overhype wins, cause well lets face it, none of them need it
It was Oscar De La Hoya that cherry picked Manny, not the other way around. Larry Merchant proposed the fight to Oscar and Oscar loving a big pay day thought he could beat the former flyweight champion. Let's not bullshit about that. In fact Oscar has a habit of making guys jump up 2 weight classes to fight him, see Shane Mosley. And since you brought out the weight draining process, he did the same to Bernard Hopkins.
Please... Hopkins walked around in shape close to 160 anyway... he had to lose something like 3 pounds? Oscar ended up coming down the best part of 10 pounds... so the two don't really compare for starters.

But whether it was 10 pounds or 3 pounds doesn't really matter - just because one fighter did one thing it doesn't make it a get out of jail free card for another fighter to do the same thing and have no questions asked...

ODLH may have nudged pacman to fight, but it was roach who set a weight and took it knowing that ODLH probably wouldn't be able to cut down to it, if he thought oscar would have been a threat at 147 then he would have asked for the fight to take place at 144-143 or something (why do you think they were happy to take Oscar at 147 but not Mosely or Cotto?...)
147 is the correct weight to fight, what you expect Pac to fight at 154? lol
Name me 1 time in boxing history where a guy jumps 3 weight classes? It hasn't happened. If you guys complained about catchweights then complained about all of them, don't pick and choose which one to b-itch about. And I've said before it was De La Hoya that called out Pac, in a proposed bout by Larry Merchant.