Will Pacquiao duck Mayweather?

[Taeth]

I think the names are the wrong way round in the thread title

Since when has Pac ducked anybody?

he took the fight with hatton because he saw flaws in ricky that werent there a few years back. The exact same thing has now happened with cotto

pac doesnt duck a challenge and never has. But his opponents are extremely well picked by arum

Had floyd of looked the slightest bit jagged towards the end of the marquez fight arum would already be making the calls right now preying pac gets through cotto so he can take out floyd

In light of floyds brilliance its just gonna be interesting if pac can find a way past cotto whether arum and roach will really put their money where their mouth is and stick pacquiao in with mayweather!!

Hatton didn't look flawed when he fought Paulie, I think PAcquiao's style was better suited against Hatton, and the version of Oscar that he faced. After seeing Mayweather-Marquez I have my doubts about where Oscar was in that fight with Pacquiao because his durability couldn't have been up there if he weighed less than Manny coming into the fight.

[jahmez]

When Pacquiao uses a catchweight to weaken a fighter's chances I understand the criticism but I don't see anything wrong with capitalizing on any flaws you see in the IBO and Ring Magazine Junior Welterweight Champion who is undefeated at 140. So because you discover that he is succeptible to hooks while coming in you duck him and get more credit?

[Mar]

Duck mayweather ?!! Of course not. He'll fight him, and thanks to floyd himself giving us another 24/7 many will pay beliving PAC has a chance. Floyd will beat him like everyone else they both will cash their checks and we'll move on to the next " supposed " to be floyd beater. He'll it changes every week, margo ,cotto, whoever doesn't matter really. The only reason floyd came back was to make easy money beating these random guys fans pick as thier hero. Beating up on these small guys was just to easy to pass up.

[Gandalf]

If anybody were to duck anyone I would expect it to be Floyd doing the ducking, but if it meant "ducking" Pacquiao to fight Mosely then I would be more than happy. If it is to fight anybody else then Mayweather confirms all my worst suspicions and that he is indeed a hyena.

[Violent Demise]

If Pacquiao demands 50% or more than he would clearly be ducking Mayweather.

[brucelee]

If Pacquiao demands 50% or more than he would clearly be ducking Mayweather.

[eagle]

If Pacquiao demands 50% or more than he would clearly be ducking Mayweather.

Whats wrong with what VD said?

[Violent Demise]

If Pacquiao demands 50% or more than he would clearly be ducking Mayweather.

Whats wrong with what VD said?

His dumb ass actually thinks it should be 80%-20% in favor of Pacquiao.

[brucelee]

Whats wrong with what VD said?

His dumb ass actually thinks it should be 80%-20% in favor of Pacquiao.

Yeah and you're the all knowing VD who, more often than not, is making wrong predictions on big fights.

Both Pacquaio and Mayweather are at the top of the game and both of them deserved respect and should be given 50% of the purse.

And you call it ducking when it should be called FAIRNESS.


Who's the dumb ass?

Edit: Let me ask your dumb ass then, has Pacquaio ducked anyone?

Btw, you're also the one who predicted that Pac will be surely murdered by DLH (and anyone who disagrees with you is also dumb) and when it did not happen you licked your bloody wounded pride by making excuses.

[eagle]

Whats wrong with what VD said?

His dumb ass actually thinks it should be 80%-20% in favor of Pacquiao.

Yeah and you're the all knowing VD who, more often than not, is making wrong predictions on big fights.

Both Pacquaio and Mayweather are at the top of the game and both of them deserved respect and should be given 50% of the purse.

And you call it ducking when it should be called FAIRNESS.


Who's the dumb ass?

Edit: Let me ask your dumb ass then, has Pacquaio ducked anyone?

Btw, you're also the one who predicted that Pac will be surely murdered by DLH (and anyone who disagrees with you is also dumb) and when it did not happen you licked your bloody wounded pride by making excuses.

Well when u look at it PBF is the bigger draw.

Mayweather v ODLH did more ppv than Pac v DLH
Mayweather v Hatton did more PPV than Pac v Hatton
and
Mayweather v JMM did 3 times the ppv of Pac v JMM

So asking for 50% would be as much as Pac could hope for, and anymore would be ridiculous.

Now as for the comments about DLH, please show me all these posts where i said Pac would be murdered, or any that i have written that made excuses for him. I may have done but i dont believe so. I actuall like Pac and support him quite often, its his fans who know so little about anything other than Pac i cannot stand. U are far from the worst.
If you can find the numerous so called posts where i said Pac would get murderd by Oscar, or the posts where is consistently made excuses for him i will admit im wrong like a man. But if u cant i expect an apology, and an admission u lied.

As for Pac ducking anyone, i believe he fought the easiest title holder well i dont think he has u are right. The thing is the majority of his opponents have already been beaten by Floyd so u cant really say PBF has ducked anyone either.

[Violent Demise]

Whats wrong with what VD said?

His dumb ass actually thinks it should be 80%-20% in favor of Pacquiao.

Yeah and you're the all knowing VD who, more often than not, is making wrong predictions on big fights.

Both Pacquaio and Mayweather are at the top of the game and both of them deserved respect and should be given 50% of the purse.

And you call it ducking when it should be called FAIRNESS.


Who's the dumb ass?

Edit: Let me ask your dumb ass then, has Pacquaio ducked anyone?

Btw, you're also the one who predicted that Pac will be surely murdered by DLH (and anyone who disagrees with you is also dumb) and when it did not happen you licked your bloody wounded pride by making excuses.

I might get some predictions wrong. You know why? Cuz unlike you i actually watch other fights. If Pac ain't involved you ain't watching. Your obsessed with him. It's the reason your stupid enough to say Pacquiao should get 50%. It's obvious by his last fight, Mayweather is clearly the superior fighter. But your a groupie. So you can't see that

[brucelee]

If Pacquiao demands 50% or more than he would clearly be ducking Mayweather.

Whats wrong with what VD said?

Well I thought you know some boxing negotiations, I was wrong.


In case Pac demolishes Cotto in the early rounds as predicted by Roach, Team PAcquaio will definitely ask for 50% or more. That's definitely not ducking. It's called negotiating and leveraging.

VD is dumb in terms of real boxing negotiations and all he has is his idiotic one liners.

SAd thing is, you impliedly agreed with him immediately. That makes the two of you "dumb and dumber combination".

[Addicted to_boxing]

Whats wrong with what VD said?

Well I thought you know some boxing negotiations, I was wrong.


In case Pac demolishes Cotto in the early rounds as predicted by Roach, Team PAcquaio will definitely ask for 50% or more. That's definitely not ducking. It's called negotiating and leveraging.

VD is dumb in terms of real boxing negotiations and all he has is his idiotic one liners.

SAd thing is, you impliedly agreed with him immediately. That makes the two of you "dumb and dumber combination".

Last I recall Pac survived JMM, PBF clowned him (even if he had every advantage possible.
). PBF has no losses ...... So Why would Pac deserve the larger purse? He would have to soundly beat JMM before he could rightfully deserve the larger purse. BTW I hate PBF with a passion. PBF just manipulated / outsmarted the Pac camp by choosing JMM as a foe. Not even a dramatic KO by Pac will have him as the larger purse holder or favorite vs PBF. Pac is and always be adjoined to the hip with JMM. Cotto will always be adjoined to the legacy of being "plastered" by Margarito. (damaged goods)

[zhubin]

Whats wrong with what VD said?

Well I thought you know some boxing negotiations, I was wrong.


In case Pac demolishes Cotto in the early rounds as predicted by Roach, Team PAcquaio will definitely ask for 50% or more. That's definitely not ducking. It's called negotiating and leveraging.

VD is dumb in terms of real boxing negotiations and all he has is his idiotic one liners.

SAd thing is, you impliedly agreed with him immediately. That makes the two of you "dumb and dumber combination".

Last I recall Pac survived JMM, PBF clowned him (even if he had every advantage possible.
). PBF has no losses ...... So Why would Pac deserve the larger purse? He would have to soundly beat JMM before he could rightfully deserve the larger purse. BTW I hate PBF with a passion. PBF just manipulated / outsmarted the Pac camp by choosing JMM as a foe. Not even a dramatic KO by Pac will have him as the larger purse holder or favorite vs PBF. Pac is and always be adjoined to the hip with JMM. Cotto will always be adjoined to the legacy of being "plastered" by Margarito. (damaged goods)

Comparing Pac vs. Marquez and Floyd vs. Marquez is irrelevant. Two completely different weight classes. The Floyd vs. Marquez match up was a complete mismatch from the day the fight was signed. And while the PPV sales might have been high...the actual fight was a snoozefest. Pac generates excitement in the ring. Floyd, for all of his technical brilliance, generates more excitement on the pre-fight hype than in the actual ring. You don't have to be a Pac fan to realize that he is the most exciting and probably most popular fighter in the sport. So in the end...it doesn't really matter about previous fights...what matters is the ability for the fighters to generate $$$$...and Pac can do that as well if not better than Floyd at this point. So having said that...Pac deserves at least half of the purse. Floyd will not be fighting an up and comer, he will not be fighting a stiff...he will be fighting (whether you agree with it or not) the current pound for pound fighter in the sport (we shall see what happens with the Cotto fight). Personally, I wish both Pac and Floyd fought guys in their "natural" weight classes. But again...boxing is as much a business as a sport. And while in the ring these two fighters might not be equals (i see Floyd winning with relative ease at welterweight)...from a business standpoint, they certainly are equals.

[mad_takamura]

Whats wrong with what VD said?

Well I thought you know some boxing negotiations, I was wrong.


In case Pac demolishes Cotto in the early rounds as predicted by Roach, Team PAcquaio will definitely ask for 50% or more. That's definitely not ducking. It's called negotiating and leveraging.

VD is dumb in terms of real boxing negotiations and all he has is his idiotic one liners.

SAd thing is, you impliedly agreed with him immediately. That makes the two of you "dumb and dumber combination".

Last I recall Pac survived JMM, PBF clowned him (even if he had every advantage possible.
). PBF has no losses ...... So Why would Pac deserve the larger purse? He would have to soundly beat JMM before he could rightfully deserve the larger purse. BTW I hate PBF with a passion. PBF just manipulated / outsmarted the Pac camp by choosing JMM as a foe. Not even a dramatic KO by Pac will have him as the larger purse holder or favorite vs PBF. Pac is and always be adjoined to the hip with JMM. Cotto will always be adjoined to the legacy of being "plastered" by Margarito. (damaged goods)

but you could also use that argument in pac's case. pac ko'ed hatton in 2 rounds while pbf did that only in 10. pac ko'ed hoya in 9, while pbf only won by sd.
pac won against jmm with a sd. don't care what the majority says on that. boxing has always been a subjective sport, like it or not. plus it's on paper.pbf won a ud but it was evident that he was the bigger man during the fight, probably on fight night he is 15 pound heavier. notice how he did'nt even buge when jmm caught him cleanly and only smiled? smart as pbf thinks he is there would always be criticisms. and one of them are the things i mentioned. who the hell have the say for a higher purse then? hard as it would be , i still think arum will find a way for their demands to converge. and it will be a closed door deal just to please both parties.