Comparison of Floyd's punching stats to Vitali's punching stats in latest matches

[JT Rock]

I dont see any relevance at all.. I think you all have Vitali mixed up with Wlad in the boring dept... Vitali is 10x the fighter and badass.

Vitali is my favorite heavy I have always liked him and thought highly of his heart and determination, he overcame any questions of his fortitude from the Byrd fight, against Lewis he was the epitome of true heart and guts and mental toughness. That fight was something I'll never forget, I give Vitali a pikem chance against any of the great Heavyweights in history and favor him over quite a few.

I was astonished at his volume against Arreola and my concern of his age and getting older overnight was for nothing, that's the only chance I gave Cris was against a Vitali that lost a step. I have made it known numerous times how I feel bad for Vitali because of his injuries, if it wasnt for him going down for 4 years he could have carved himself an even better run of dominace and lineal championship rein. Instead he has to play second fiddle to a guy who has the mental toughness of a 16 year old girl who got dumped by her 1st boyfriend..

[El Kabong]

I dont see any relevance at all.. I think you all have Vitali mixed up with Wlad in the boring dept... Vitali is 10x the fighter and badass.

Vitali is my favorite heavy I have always liked him and thought highly of his heart and determination, he overcame any questions of his fortitude from the Byrd fight, against Lewis he was the epitome of true heart and guts and mental toughness. That fight was something I'll never forget, I give Vitali a pikem chance against any of the great Heavyweights in history and favor him over quite a few.

I was astonished at his volume against Arreola and my concern of his age and getting older overnight was for nothing, that's the only chance I gave Cris was against a Vitali that lost a step. I have made it known numerous times how I feel bad for Vitali because of his injuries, if it wasnt for him going down for 4 years he could have carved himself an even better run of dominace and lineal championship rein. Instead he has to play second fiddle to a guy who has the mental toughness of a 16 year old girl who got dumped by her 1st boyfriend..

Which is why it's so easy to beat Wladimir and that's why Wladimir never has handled adversity well, he's never dealt with a cut (the way he didn't do it vs Calvin Brock), he's never gotten off the canvas to win (like he didn't do it vs Sam Peter), and he's never avenged a loss (which is why the rematch with Lamon Brewster never happened).

I find it hilarious that a die hard Floyd Mayweather Jr. fan can do nothing but talk shit about a guy who runs a division yet he has weaknesses and flaws but he doesn't hand pick his opponents, he doesn't run away from competition, and he never stops throwing punches.

[JT Rock]

I dont see any relevance at all.. I think you all have Vitali mixed up with Wlad in the boring dept... Vitali is 10x the fighter and badass.

Vitali is my favorite heavy I have always liked him and thought highly of his heart and determination, he overcame any questions of his fortitude from the Byrd fight, against Lewis he was the epitome of true heart and guts and mental toughness. That fight was something I'll never forget, I give Vitali a pikem chance against any of the great Heavyweights in history and favor him over quite a few.

I was astonished at his volume against Arreola and my concern of his age and getting older overnight was for nothing, that's the only chance I gave Cris was against a Vitali that lost a step. I have made it known numerous times how I feel bad for Vitali because of his injuries, if it wasnt for him going down for 4 years he could have carved himself an even better run of dominace and lineal championship rein. Instead he has to play second fiddle to a guy who has the mental toughness of a 16 year old girl who got dumped by her 1st boyfriend..

Which is why it's so easy to beat Wladimir and that's why Wladimir never has handled adversity well, he's never dealt with a cut (the way he didn't do it vs Calvin Brock), he's never gotten off the canvas to win (like he didn't do it vs Sam Peter), and he's never avenged a loss (which is why the rematch with Lamon Brewster never happened).

I find it hilarious that a die hard Floyd Mayweather Jr. fan can do nothing but talk shit about a guy who runs a division yet he has weaknesses and flaws but he doesn't hand pick his opponents, he doesn't run away from competition, and he never stops throwing punches.

News flash Lyle, the division is weak and I dont care how you justify it, Mayweather is a better fighter in all regards. PFP being a standard albeit fantasy measuring stick that fighters are judged by, Wlad isint even in the same convo with Mayweather, PFP Wlads best wins arent on par with Mayweathers. I dont hold the quality of comp against Wlad because its a product of his era and not his fault. You and the rest of your Wlad apologists can try to compare Wlad to Floyd all you want but there is no comparison, none at all WLAD is a heavyweight with undeniable 1 punch KO power. He jabs his way through 1/2 of a fight and refuses to press and annihilate a fighter that has been broken down and beaten 4 rounds prior. He is fragile at best and is protecting a weak chin, he desperately holds within 2ft of his reach and flops around the ring like a fish when pressed in the past... There is no comparison to Mayweather

Vitali is the better fighter and champion he possesses certain intangibles that other great heavyweights have, you never get the sense that Vitali is vulnerable or in trouble, never a look of desperation just a cool relaxed confidence in himself. The only way you ever hear of Vitali getting bet against is because of age and nothing else. Wlads been unraveled and stopped 3x by fighters who were signifigantly less than him, hence no matter what until the day he retires he will always have that label of fragile and chinny and he fights like someone who is protecting those vulnerabilities, nothing wrong with that but in the division he fights in, those arent qualities that people want to see in their Lineal Heavyweight Champion.

I welcome any challenge or debate on who the better brother is, because there is no way in hell Wlad could ever beat Vitali.. Vitali is the best Heavy in the world right now BAR NONE!!!

[El Kabong]

News flash Lyle, the division is weak and I dont care how you justify it, Mayweather is a better fighter in all regards. PFP being a standard albeit fantasy measuring stick that fighters are judged by, Wlad isint even in the same convo with Mayweather, PFP Wlads best wins arent on par with Mayweathers. I dont hold the quality of comp against Wlad because its a product of his era and not his fault. You and the rest of your Wlad apologists can try to compare Wlad to Floyd all you want but there is no comparison, none at all WLAD is a heavyweight with undeniable 1 punch KO power. He jabs his way through 1/2 of a fight and refuses to press and annihilate a fighter that has been broken down and beaten 4 rounds prior. He is fragile at best and is protecting a weak chin, he desperately holds within 2ft of his reach and flops around the ring like a fish when pressed in the past... There is no comparison to Mayweather

Vitali is the better fighter and champion he possesses certain intangibles that other great heavyweights have, you never get the sense that Vitali is vulnerable or in trouble, never a look of desperation just a cool relaxed confidence in himself. The only way you ever hear of Vitali getting bet against is because of age and nothing else. Wlads been unraveled and stopped 3x by fighters who were signifigantly less than him, hence no matter what until the day he retires he will always have that label of fragile and chinny and he fights like someone who is protecting those vulnerabilities, nothing wrong with that but in the division he fights in, those arent qualities that people want to see in their Lineal Heavyweight Champion.

I welcome any challenge or debate on who the better brother is, because there is no way in hell Wlad could ever beat Vitali.. Vitali is the best Heavy in the world right now BAR NONE!!!

What's weak is YOUR BOY shunning real threats to his 0. That's what fucking weak "Oh I'm the greatest of all-time, I'm unbeaten" yeah because he fights guys either outside of their weight classes, past their prime (and he doesn't put them away), he's never unified, and when he is winning a fight he'll coast to the finish line rather than try to either entertain the crowd or stop his opponent.

I'm sorry, but I've had enough of the "the heavyweights are weak" bullshit, I call it bullshit because it is...you can bitch and moan about who Wlad faces all you want to but guess what he's got 1 division to worry about and there aren't all kinds of fighters coming and going through the heavyweight division whereas Floyd could fight anywhere from 140 (perhaps) to 160....yeah I suggest he fight at 160, Duran did it, Leonard did it, Robinson did it, Hearns did it.....I suggest Floyd fight somebody that maybe is a bit bigger than him, that maybe boxes pretty good, that maybe punches pretty hard and why do I request that of him?? Because if he is so fucking sure he's the best then he won't mind proving it.

Meanwhile Wlad and Vitali are nice humble guys, they don't talk shit, they don't act like some wannabe gangster, and they go out and try to prove themselves vs what the heavyweight division has to offer them....they don't have the chance to switch weight classes, they don't have the chance to make "mega fights" with other bonafide super stars....but Floyd does and it is PATHETIC that he hasn't done more

.....end rant

[sumkalambay]

let's get something straight here

vitali's style resembles a chimpanzee swinging his arms wildly about in comparison to floyd's.

[JT Rock]

News flash Lyle, the division is weak and I dont care how you justify it, Mayweather is a better fighter in all regards. PFP being a standard albeit fantasy measuring stick that fighters are judged by, Wlad isint even in the same convo with Mayweather, PFP Wlads best wins arent on par with Mayweathers. I dont hold the quality of comp against Wlad because its a product of his era and not his fault. You and the rest of your Wlad apologists can try to compare Wlad to Floyd all you want but there is no comparison, none at all WLAD is a heavyweight with undeniable 1 punch KO power. He jabs his way through 1/2 of a fight and refuses to press and annihilate a fighter that has been broken down and beaten 4 rounds prior. He is fragile at best and is protecting a weak chin, he desperately holds within 2ft of his reach and flops around the ring like a fish when pressed in the past... There is no comparison to Mayweather

Vitali is the better fighter and champion he possesses certain intangibles that other great heavyweights have, you never get the sense that Vitali is vulnerable or in trouble, never a look of desperation just a cool relaxed confidence in himself. The only way you ever hear of Vitali getting bet against is because of age and nothing else. Wlads been unraveled and stopped 3x by fighters who were signifigantly less than him, hence no matter what until the day he retires he will always have that label of fragile and chinny and he fights like someone who is protecting those vulnerabilities, nothing wrong with that but in the division he fights in, those arent qualities that people want to see in their Lineal Heavyweight Champion.

I welcome any challenge or debate on who the better brother is, because there is no way in hell Wlad could ever beat Vitali.. Vitali is the best Heavy in the world right now BAR NONE!!!

What's weak is YOUR BOY shunning real threats to his 0. That's what fucking weak "Oh I'm the greatest of all-time, I'm unbeaten" yeah because he fights guys either outside of their weight classes, past their prime (and he doesn't put them away), he's never unified, and when he is winning a fight he'll coast to the finish line rather than try to either entertain the crowd or stop his opponent.

I'm sorry, but I've had enough of the "the heavyweights are weak" bullshit, I call it bullshit because it is...you can bitch and moan about who Wlad faces all you want to but guess what he's got 1 division to worry about and there aren't all kinds of fighters coming and going through the heavyweight division whereas Floyd could fight anywhere from 140 (perhaps) to 160....yeah I suggest he fight at 160, Duran did it, Leonard did it, Robinson did it, Hearns did it.....I suggest Floyd fight somebody that maybe is a bit bigger than him, that maybe boxes pretty good, that maybe punches pretty hard and why do I request that of him?? Because if he is so fucking sure he's the best then he won't mind proving it.

Meanwhile Wlad and Vitali are nice humble guys, they don't talk shit, they don't act like some wannabe gangster, and they go out and try to prove themselves vs what the heavyweight division has to offer them....they don't have the chance to switch weight classes, they don't have the chance to make "mega fights" with other bonafide super stars....but Floyd does and it is PATHETIC that he hasn't done more

.....end rant

Pathetic to be rated PFP#1 best fighter in the world for years, comes back and is at #2, sold over a million PPV with JMM and is the #4 all time grossing PPV fighter in the history of the sport... SOOOO your rant says nothing really substantial Lyle

[El Kabong]

Pathetic to be rated PFP#1 best fighter in the world for years, comes back and is at #2, sold over a million PPV with JMM and is the #4 all time grossing PPV fighter in the history of the sport... SOOOO your rant says nothing really substantial Lyle

So if Vitali fought Bernard Hopkins AT HEAVYWEIGHT and whipped the crap out of him you'd give him credit? That's essentially what Floyd did by beating Marquez. Or maybe if Wladimir fought Tomaz Adamek at heavyweight he'd get credit for beating him?

Here's your chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're no hypocrit...all you have to do is say "Yes I would give them full credit"....please be my guest and explain why I should even consider Floyd as a P4P best when he beat up a featherweight who hadn't even proven himself vs the best lightweights much less junior welters or welterweights.

Oh but he's Floyd 'Money' Mayweather, he's brash and irreverant and he's flashy on TV so it doesn't matter who Floyd fights or at what weight he fights anyone, it's only THAT he fights and that he acts like a total jackass, that's why we should bow down before him as the greatest of all time

I have no problem showering compliments down on Floyd's skill, he's amazing, outstanding, terrific....but does he challenge himself Does he try to challenge himself?? Has he set out to prove he is deserving of the title as the Greatest of all time? NO, NO, and NO. He's just a good fighter....Manny Pacquiao's wins over De la Hoya and Hatton (although they happened after Floyd beat those guys) were much more impressive because Manny moved up in weight and challenged himself vs the best 140 had to offer at the time and a very big albeit weight drained De la Hoya....and he stopped both of them.

See unlike you Floyd "fans" I think Floyd could beat Paul Williams, I would rather Floyd get KTFO, but I think he'd prove a lot fighting and beating the BIGGER guys and the guys who are solid threats, I think Pavlik is HUGE but he's slow and easy to hit, I think Cotto may not have rebounded from the loss to Margarito, I think Shane doesn't have the style ot beat Floyd, but will he fight those guys? Nope, he wouldn't even consider it because he's a punk....he's talented, but he's a little punk

[Kel]

Has Floyd ever been in a FOTY?

[Taeth]

Pathetic to be rated PFP#1 best fighter in the world for years, comes back and is at #2, sold over a million PPV with JMM and is the #4 all time grossing PPV fighter in the history of the sport... SOOOO your rant says nothing really substantial Lyle

So if Vitali fought Bernard Hopkins AT HEAVYWEIGHT and whipped the crap out of him you'd give him credit? That's essentially what Floyd did by beating Marquez. Or maybe if Wladimir fought Tomaz Adamek at heavyweight he'd get credit for beating him?

Here's your chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're no hypocrit...all you have to do is say "Yes I would give them full credit"....please be my guest and explain why I should even consider Floyd as a P4P best when he beat up a featherweight who hadn't even proven himself vs the best lightweights much less junior welters or welterweights.

Oh but he's Floyd 'Money' Mayweather, he's brash and irreverant and he's flashy on TV so it doesn't matter who Floyd fights or at what weight he fights anyone, it's only THAT he fights and that he acts like a total jackass, that's why we should bow down before him as the greatest of all time

I have no problem showering compliments down on Floyd's skill, he's amazing, outstanding, terrific....but does he challenge himself Does he try to challenge himself?? Has he set out to prove he is deserving of the title as the Greatest of all time? NO, NO, and NO. He's just a good fighter....Manny Pacquiao's wins over De la Hoya and Hatton (although they happened after Floyd beat those guys) were much more impressive because Manny moved up in weight and challenged himself vs the best 140 had to offer at the time and a very big albeit weight drained De la Hoya....and he stopped both of them.

See unlike you Floyd "fans" I think Floyd could beat Paul Williams, I would rather Floyd get KTFO, but I think he'd prove a lot fighting and beating the BIGGER guys and the guys who are solid threats, I think Pavlik is HUGE but he's slow and easy to hit, I think Cotto may not have rebounded from the loss to Margarito, I think Shane doesn't have the style ot beat Floyd, but will he fight those guys? Nope, he wouldn't even consider it because he's a punk....he's talented, but he's a little punk

Are you actually comparing Hopkins going up to face Vitali to Floyd vs Marquez? You do realize Vitali is almost twice as big as Hopkins, while Floyd was bigger than Marquez, but it wasn't by that much, he weighed like 4-8 pounds heavier come fight night.

[Taeth]

News flash Lyle, the division is weak and I dont care how you justify it, Mayweather is a better fighter in all regards. PFP being a standard albeit fantasy measuring stick that fighters are judged by, Wlad isint even in the same convo with Mayweather, PFP Wlads best wins arent on par with Mayweathers. I dont hold the quality of comp against Wlad because its a product of his era and not his fault. You and the rest of your Wlad apologists can try to compare Wlad to Floyd all you want but there is no comparison, none at all WLAD is a heavyweight with undeniable 1 punch KO power. He jabs his way through 1/2 of a fight and refuses to press and annihilate a fighter that has been broken down and beaten 4 rounds prior. He is fragile at best and is protecting a weak chin, he desperately holds within 2ft of his reach and flops around the ring like a fish when pressed in the past... There is no comparison to Mayweather

Vitali is the better fighter and champion he possesses certain intangibles that other great heavyweights have, you never get the sense that Vitali is vulnerable or in trouble, never a look of desperation just a cool relaxed confidence in himself. The only way you ever hear of Vitali getting bet against is because of age and nothing else. Wlads been unraveled and stopped 3x by fighters who were signifigantly less than him, hence no matter what until the day he retires he will always have that label of fragile and chinny and he fights like someone who is protecting those vulnerabilities, nothing wrong with that but in the division he fights in, those arent qualities that people want to see in their Lineal Heavyweight Champion.

I welcome any challenge or debate on who the better brother is, because there is no way in hell Wlad could ever beat Vitali.. Vitali is the best Heavy in the world right now BAR NONE!!!

What's weak is YOUR BOY shunning real threats to his 0. That's what fucking weak "Oh I'm the greatest of all-time, I'm unbeaten" yeah because he fights guys either outside of their weight classes, past their prime (and he doesn't put them away), he's never unified, and when he is winning a fight he'll coast to the finish line rather than try to either entertain the crowd or stop his opponent.

I'm sorry, but I've had enough of the "the heavyweights are weak" bullshit, I call it bullshit because it is...you can bitch and moan about who Wlad faces all you want to but guess what he's got 1 division to worry about and there aren't all kinds of fighters coming and going through the heavyweight division whereas Floyd could fight anywhere from 140 (perhaps) to 160....yeah I suggest he fight at 160, Duran did it, Leonard did it, Robinson did it, Hearns did it.....I suggest Floyd fight somebody that maybe is a bit bigger than him, that maybe boxes pretty good, that maybe punches pretty hard and why do I request that of him?? Because if he is so fucking sure he's the best then he won't mind proving it.

Meanwhile Wlad and Vitali are nice humble guys, they don't talk shit, they don't act like some wannabe gangster, and they go out and try to prove themselves vs what the heavyweight division has to offer them....they don't have the chance to switch weight classes, they don't have the chance to make "mega fights" with other bonafide super stars....but Floyd does and it is PATHETIC that he hasn't done more

.....end rant

Leonard started his career at welterweight, and he was way bigger than Floyd. Duran also was a much larger man then Floyd, and I still think FLoyd would still dominate at 160, maybe he will move up in a few years to 154 and 160. He already beat IMO the best 154 pounder when he faced De La Hoya. If Oscar wasn't the best 154 pounder he was right up there.