Tua the hardest hitting heavyweight ever?

[DAWGSWIN]

Earnie Shavers anyone

First name that came to my mind when I saw this thread!!

[Hunter]

Earnie Shavers anyone

Did someone ask who knocked out the most taxi drivers or who is the hardest punching heavyweight champ?

[CFH]

Earnie Shavers anyone

Did someone ask who knocked out the most taxi drivers or who is the hardest punching heavyweight champ?

I don't necessarily agree with this but fuck that is funny.

[johnsebastianmiran]

He wasn't a champ but I hear some of the guys he knocked out are eating solid foods and one guy has a dribble cup. Just kidding but he hit hard just looking for a cup and saucer for his morning coffee.

[CutMeMick]

Earnie Shavers anyone

Did someone ask who knocked out the most taxi drivers or who is the hardest punching heavyweight champ?

The question was the hardest hitting HW.
I'm not sure if you don't have your glasses on but nowhere on the title do I see the word champ.

Earnie fought as a HW therefor he qualifies.

If you want the hardest hitting HW then Tua wouldn't even be in the topic cause he's never picked up a title.
Maybe you should read the questions slower to grasp the entire thing completely.

[CutMeMick]

He wasn't a champ but I hear some of the guys he knocked out are eating solid foods and one guy has a dribble cup. Just kidding but he hit hard just looking for a cup and saucer for his morning coffee.

Well the question reads HW.
It doesn't say the hardest HW champ...

[Galaxy]

There's no doubt that Tua is a huge puncher, & he can carry that power into the late rounds, just look at those legs of his

But I think Savers & Foreman hit harder, Louis was a great puncher in his prime!

[Dark Lord Al]

I think Audley Harrison is the hardest hitting active HW , i mean he 1 punched KOED a novice in Prizefighter , how can anyone argue against the fact.

[Nameless]

at the moment, on paper, the hardest HW ever is VItali Klitshko: with 37 kos in 38 wins, it's damn hard to do any better!! He definitely punches harder than TUA (in my opinion) and I would also rate Smoking Joe Frasier and Big George Foreman as being serious contender to the hardest HW puncher ever too.... like I said, on paper, via the results, it's Vitali but if we talk outside of the Ring results, Frasier and Foreman have to be seriously considered. Tua is behind these 3 for sure, in my opinion.

I don't think that Vitali even hits harder than Wlad. He seems to get many of his stoppage through accumulation.

I see your point and it is quite a good remark, however, Vitali breaks them down systematically because it is a safer way of boxing than just going open like an harvester, I really think he has that one punch destruction capacity but just prefer to play it safer. At least, it's the way I feel.

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I'm inclined to think that Jack Dempsey maybe the hardest puncher ever, but it's not easy to quantify as he fought so long ago.

Failing that, I'm going to have to go with the tried & trusted Earnie Shavers.

Everybody who fought him has stated that he is the hardest puncher they ever faced.

[HatmanTV]

Tua hardest puncher ever?? possibly...

But 1st of all let me say this- KO PERCENTAGES MEAN NOTHING, U MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE QUALITY OF OPPOSITION AND THE MANNER OF THE STOPPAGES!!!

Peter McNeely had a better KO percentage than Tyson when they faught, does that mean McNeely was a better puncher?? Please!


Vitali isnt even the hardest puncher in the division now, let alone hardest of all time- he wears people down, he very rarely dispatches people with 1 shot, or even 4 or 5, it normaly takes a number of rounds. Look how many times he hit lennox lewis flush on the jaw and couldnt drop him, look how many times he caught corrie sanders and couldnt drop him (niether of those fighters known 4 having a strong chin), and more recently, look how many times he hit sam peter clean and couldnt even stagger him (jameel mccline managed 2 put peter on the floor with relative ease). So we can take Vitali out of the equasion very quickly.

Shavers had a great ko record on paper, but the only top heavyweight he ever KO'd was norton who was already damaged goods at the time anyway. The rest of his Ko's where over guys uve never heard of, so we cant give him 2 much credit 4 that. If Tyson faught all the guys shavers faught im sure he wouldve knocked them all out aswell. Ali once said shavers hit harder than foreman- but people 4get he said that at a time when foreman was trying 2 secure a rematch with him and there had been alot of back and forth jibes between them in the press (and we all know how fond ali was of playing mind games). Plus Ali managed 2 avoid taking the full force of foremans blows when they faught by leaning back against the ropes 2 take the sting out of the shots- and he saw every punch coming, so he never really felt foremans full power with a head shot. He did however feel foremans full power 2 the body, which left Ali peeing blood for 2 weeks after the fight- something which didnt happen when he faught shavers! Dont get me wrong, shavers could punch, but 4 lack of ko's against quality opponents id have to put a few other guys above him.


4 me its a toss up between Tyson Tua and Foreman, its hard 2 seperate them.

Tyson certainly had the best variety of power shots, and he could deliver power from distance as well as close range, with jabs and straight rights as well as hooks and uppercuts. But im not sure he had the same raw one punch power foreman had. But he had excellent handspeed technique and accuracy. And as we know he knocked out plenty of top fighters.

Foreman had terrific power, but he wasnt the cleanest puncher in the world, his punches where often delivered with sloppy technique and therefore didnt always land flush...but such was his power that even a wild clubbing blow that only partially landed could take alot of opponents out. he also had the most powerful left jab in history next 2 sonny liston. And as with Tyson, Foreman proved his power in knocking out top opponents.

Tua punches very well upclose, with hooks, but he cant get the same power into his straight shots, or even his uppercuts 4 the most part. So his arsenal is quite limited. But his hooks upclose are as powerful as any1's. And Tua has also registerd his fair share of KO's over top rated opposition.


Its really a pick em between those 3, if i had 2 hazard a guess, then i'd say Tyson, but only just. I think he proved his power more consistently against top opposition than Tua and Foreman did. But that said, i wouldnt like 2 get hit by any of them! LOL

[Cortez The Killer]

Tua hardest puncher ever?? possibly...

But 1st of all let me say this- KO PERCENTAGES MEAN NOTHING, U MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE QUALITY OF OPPOSITION AND THE MANNER OF THE STOPPAGES!!!

Peter McNeely had a better KO percentage than Tyson when they faught, does that mean McNeely was a better puncher?? Please!

Great point!

I never understood how earnie shavers is considered such a great puncher. If you add up the cumulative record of his opposition its probably something like 200 wins and 700 losses

The whole "hardest puncher" thing is one of those abstract questions. Different kinds of punches, different physiques lead to different kinds of power. But quality of opposition is a major factor..it's much easier to KO a guy looking to get lucky or cash a quick paycheck than it is fighting quality opp with a desire to win. Lots of guys with high KO % for the first 20-25 fights or so then not see many after that.

Tua has that powder-keg explosive type power that can leave someone's brain a mess. Tyson explosive and fast. Foreman leverage and thudding. Those are my top 3 as well.

[holmcall]

Earnie Shavers anyone

No. I awalys thought his one punch power was overrated.

[SEB]

I think it's more a contest between Foreman and Tyson...these 2 were frightening :-)

But let's face it, boxing is a whole...

Klitchko are big punchers, but they want to play the safe side and sometimes rely on "tagging their opponent with jabs and jabs and jabs all night" with the big right hand if you try something.

Now I agree Tyson and Foreman are born with that puncher Talent. in one punch they could end it. simply scary.

[Nameless]

Tua hardest puncher ever?? possibly...

But 1st of all let me say this- KO PERCENTAGES MEAN NOTHING, U MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE QUALITY OF OPPOSITION AND THE MANNER OF THE STOPPAGES!!!

Peter McNeely had a better KO percentage than Tyson when they faught, does that mean McNeely was a better puncher?? Please!


Vitali isnt even the hardest puncher in the division now, let alone hardest of all time- he wears people down, he very rarely dispatches people with 1 shot, or even 4 or 5, it normaly takes a number of rounds. Look how many times he hit lennox lewis flush on the jaw and couldnt drop him, look how many times he caught corrie sanders and couldnt drop him (niether of those fighters known 4 having a strong chin), and more recently, look how many times he hit sam peter clean and couldnt even stagger him (jameel mccline managed 2 put peter on the floor with relative ease). So we can take Vitali out of the equasion very quickly.

Shavers had a great ko record on paper, but the only top heavyweight he ever KO'd was norton who was already damaged goods at the time anyway. The rest of his Ko's where over guys uve never heard of, so we cant give him 2 much credit 4 that. If Tyson faught all the guys shavers faught im sure he wouldve knocked them all out aswell. Ali once said shavers hit harder than foreman- but people 4get he said that at a time when foreman was trying 2 secure a rematch with him and there had been alot of back and forth jibes between them in the press (and we all know how fond ali was of playing mind games). Plus Ali managed 2 avoid taking the full force of foremans blows when they faught by leaning back against the ropes 2 take the sting out of the shots- and he saw every punch coming, so he never really felt foremans full power with a head shot. He did however feel foremans full power 2 the body, which left Ali peeing blood for 2 weeks after the fight- something which didnt happen when he faught shavers! Dont get me wrong, shavers could punch, but 4 lack of ko's against quality opponents id have to put a few other guys above him.


4 me its a toss up between Tyson Tua and Foreman, its hard 2 seperate them.

Tyson certainly had the best variety of power shots, and he could deliver power from distance as well as close range, with jabs and straight rights as well as hooks and uppercuts. But im not sure he had the same raw one punch power foreman had. But he had excellent handspeed technique and accuracy. And as we know he knocked out plenty of top fighters.

Foreman had terrific power, but he wasnt the cleanest puncher in the world, his punches where often delivered with sloppy technique and therefore didnt always land flush...but such was his power that even a wild clubbing blow that only partially landed could take alot of opponents out. he also had the most powerful left jab in history next 2 sonny liston. And as with Tyson, Foreman proved his power in knocking out top opponents.

Tua punches very well upclose, with hooks, but he cant get the same power into his straight shots, or even his uppercuts 4 the most part. So his arsenal is quite limited. But his hooks upclose are as powerful as any1's. And Tua has also registerd his fair share of KO's over top rated opposition.


Its really a pick em between those 3, if i had 2 hazard a guess, then i'd say Tyson, but only just. I think he proved his power more consistently against top opposition than Tua and Foreman did. But that said, i wouldnt like 2 get hit by any of them! LOL

Well, when there is only one victory which haven't happened via K.O, I think that we contest what you're saying here, especially because good opposition or not, it doesn't mean that your opponents have no chin at all;
also, for TUA, who did face a much lesser opposition than Vitali, how can you pretend then that he hits harder when he faced a) less opponents, b)with a lesser record overall and c) his % is quite below the one of Vitali?
Sure, he staggered Peter and didn't mangled him, happens, styles make fights, especially because Vitali is known to sacrifice power in order to get more mobility and speed, but to say that TUA is stronger than him, to me, it's pure madness; Even Freddie Roach said that Vitali is one of the hardest puncher he ever saw from his own experience, and the guy has seen... well, a lot.
As for against Lewis, shall I say that Tyson too caught him flush a few times during their meeting (even if Tyson got mangled) and that still, Lewis received very well the few flush shots he absorbed? Based on that argument, I could say that Tyson doesn't hit hard and it would be totally wrong to assume that, it just happens that the biggest hitter do not get down a guy for various reasons.
I am not saying he's THE hardest, if you read my post, I said that Joe Frasier and Foreman were definitely on top of the pile as well but to say TUA is stronger and to say that Vitali ain't hitting that hard... that is a bit exaggerated.