Latin Fury 12 & Israel Vazquez fight talk

[Kirkland Laing]

Any unbias, non-groupie knows they were gifts. Bet you think he deserved the win against Walid Smichet after dominating him the way he did, huh?

How well would Junior do against Smichet?

i don't think he could do any worse than Duddy, i agree that neither are world beaters, but hey no one is building Jr up to be the next coming of his father, people were actually trying to make Duddy a legit threat for the middleweight crown

They're not building Junior up to be a world champion? They're telling everybody he's going to have 50 fights against club fighters then retire?

[Kirkland Laing]

What a fight. Lopez seems to be getting worse. Gamboa beats him when they fight.

[Violent Demise]

What a fight. Lopez seems to be getting worse. Gamboa beats him when they fight.

So would Marquez and Caballero

[Violent Demise]

Did that muthafukka say 116-116?

[sumkalambay]

lopez wouldn't have gone the distance if that was marquez or vasquez in there.

caballero seems more dangerous now.

[Swice]

lopez wouldn't have gone the distance if that was marquez or vasquez in there.

caballero seems more dangerous now.

I didn't really see caballero as a threat to Lopez until this fight. But if he uses his height and reach to stay away from Lopez's power shots and lands his own, Lopez might be in for a very long night.

[Violent Demise]

lopez wouldn't have gone the distance if that was marquez or vasquez in there.

caballero seems more dangerous now.

No doubt about that

[Kirkland Laing]

What a fight. Lopez seems to be getting worse. Gamboa beats him when they fight.

So would Marquez and Caballero

Juan Ma's off to featherweight now, Arum's talking about Luevano next. No way Arum risks him against Caballero, he'll get a couple of nonpunching featherweights then a fight with Gamboa.

[JazMerkin]

What a fight. Lopez seems to be getting worse. Gamboa beats him when they fight.

So would Marquez and Caballero

Juan Ma's off to featherweight now, Arum's talking about Luevano next. No way Arum risks him against Caballero, he'll get a couple of nonpunching featherweights then a fight with Gamboa.

Arum wouldn't even risk him against Mtagwa again after that, let alone Caballero. I was 50/50 before, but now I'm more confident Gamboa beats him.

I think the WBO should intervene & give the belt to Mtagwa

[Kirkland Laing]

So would Marquez and Caballero

Juan Ma's off to featherweight now, Arum's talking about Luevano next. No way Arum risks him against Caballero, he'll get a couple of nonpunching featherweights then a fight with Gamboa.

Arum wouldn't even risk him against Mtagwa again after that, let alone Caballero. I was 50/50 before, but now I'm more confident Gamboa beats him.

I think the WBO should intervene & give the belt to Mtagwa

He's 26-13, but more importantly for the WBO he's not going to generate much in the way of sanctioning fees. I'm guessing people like Bernard Dunne are going to suddenly find themselves in contention for a fight for the vacant belt. Maybe a bit too soon for Bernard but there's got to be somebody somewhere who sells tickets they can go for.

[Spicoli]

Forgot all about this.Don't know how.So Lopez had to earn it?Sounds like Mtagwas cell will be ringing alot for another glossy prospect type but no mark is he!Lopez not worthy of an abbreviated catchy name yet .Less shine,more work.

[ElTerribleMorales]

So would Marquez and Caballero

Juan Ma's off to featherweight now, Arum's talking about Luevano next. No way Arum risks him against Caballero, he'll get a couple of nonpunching featherweights then a fight with Gamboa.

Arum wouldn't even risk him against Mtagwa again after that, let alone Caballero. I was 50/50 before, but now I'm more confident Gamboa beats him.

I think the WBO should intervene & give the belt to Mtagwa

i don't see why they would, it's not like Mtagwa was robbed, he bounced back well and ALMOST had Juanma out of there but i had Lopez winning by 2 points, Juanma imo won most of the early rounds and then the second half was back and forth, both scored 10-8 rnds on my card so that cancels each other's out, it was a close fight but nowhere close to robbery

[JazMerkin]

i don't see why they would, it's not like Mtagwa was robbed, he bounced back well and ALMOST had Juanma out of there but i had Lopez winning by 2 points, Juanma imo won most of the early rounds and then the second half was back and forth, both scored 10-8 rnds on my card so that cancels each other's out, it was a close fight but nowhere close to robbery

Well, nowhere did I say it was a robbery have another look, I said the WBO should give Mtagwa the belt. Lopez edged it by a point I think for me, although that's off mental scoring, but I felt Mtagwa was the guy who comes away with the credit. He gave a guy many consider P4P material (he was #15 on our last list) the fight of his life. Seeing as Lopez is jumping out of the weight-class, I think Mtagwa should get given the belt

But seriously, he should get to be in the eliminator for the vacant belt. For me, a judge scoring that 116-111 was always giving it to Lopez. It also seems Arum is going to protect Juanma from any real threat till Gamboa.

Caballero's Promoter: "No Juanma Offer Ever Made" - Boxing News

Guarantee he fights Luevano & decisions him, Luevano hasn't got the heart or chin to do what Mtagwa did. I have a lot of respect for how Juanma held out in the last round, but he got the benefit of a lot in there (not enough for Arum though ). It was a bullshiit KD, & he was allowed to do a lot of 'resting' in there without the ref breaking it up. If Mtagwa was out on his feet, he wouldn't have got the same help. I do hope Juanma batters either Luevano or Rojas, as a Gamboa fight would be great, & he's an exciting fighter & also seems a cool guy. But, maybe we were all premature calling him a future P4P #1