Cringeworthy press confrence from David Haye earlier today..

[BIG H]

I'm no fan of Haye, but he didn't fight Wlad, becuase Setanta was about to go bust and he would not have got paid. Lucky he did pull out because they did go bust straight afterwards.

You mean he didn't injure himself shaddow boxing?!?!?


Haye is lucky he pulled out of the fight with Wladimir because he would have gotten his ass whupped and he knows it

I don't disagree that he would've got beat, but I'm pretty sure he didn't think that and that he was in no way scared!

[El Kabong]

Hell he only got back to back chances to fight either brother and he turned them down....why is that And don't give me this rematch clause bullshit, that's just smart business in title fights.

I think he backed out because both brothers looked untouchable in their most recent fights meanwhile David just fought Monte Barrett

[Conrad]

Hell he only got back to back chances to fight either brother and he turned them down....why is that And don't give me this rematch clause bullshit, that's just smart business in title fights.

I think he backed out because both brothers looked untouchable in their most recent fights meanwhile David just fought Monte Barrett

Do you honestly believe that Lyle, or is it just part of your Haye bashing?

No way in hell was Haye scared, why oh why would he go to such lengths to get the fight just to back out at the last minute? If he wasn't injured (and none of know for a fact that he wasn't) then the reason he backed out has to be money.

Why would any fighter intentionally stall his career and earn zero $$$'s in the process? it doesn't make sense.

You could possibly argue that if anyone was scared it was the Klitschko's!

I know you say the clauses they insisted on were standard for championship fight but they definitely were not. If Haye won he'd have to give Wlad a rematch (fair enough), but if he won that he'd then have to fight Vitali. Oh and guess what, the Klits get all the money from all three fights bar UK TV.. Therefore it was smart business on Hayes part to not go through with those demands....

[Dark Lord Al]

It has made me smile a bit , as to how highly Haye and his team now rate Valuev
I know its hyping the fight but come on , Valuev isn't even close to being the top man in the division.

[El Kabong]

It has made me smile a bit , as to how highly Haye and his team now rate Valuev
I know its hyping the fight but come on , Valuev isn't even close to being the top man in the division.

...and they did they exact same thing to MONTE BARRETT.

[AdamGB]

So in a thread about Solis - Lyle wants to talk about David Haye, in a thread about Valuev he wants to talk about Wladamir?...

Ladies and Gentlemen we're experiencing technical difficulties... we'll be right back.

[El Kabong]

Adam I am just trying to get it straight, Solis KO'd Barrett in 2 rounds in a fight where he was supposed to fight Kevin Johnson and then Fres Oquendo...and I'm just trying to judge what this means in comparison to what beating Monte Barrett meant for David Haye and that is a title shot. So by the rational of David Haye and all his idiot fans Odlainer Solis deserves a title shot yesterday as the "dangerous"(Haye's words not mine) Monte Barrett was Solis' 3rd option and yet Solis was able to KO Barrett earlier and Solis did not get knocked down in the process.

In the end, I just want to know what this win means for Solis and I wanted to use David Haye as an example because his most recent fight was against the very same Monte Barrett

and in this thread I wonder why Haye suddenly rates Valuev so high when he had PLENTY of opportunity to fight Wladimir or Vitali

[AdamGB]

Nobody said that beating Barrett was a massive achievement (there you go again inventing...)

We've been over this before... it's neither haye or his 'idiot fan's fault that all these people have been lining up to fight him.

Who said that beating Monte Barrett Rocky earned him a title shot? Again: If the Klits are stupid enough to offer him a fight then that's their problem... and here we go again... talking about Wlad and Monte Barret in a thread about Valuev and talking about Haye in a thread that's meant to be about solis.

Get with the plot.

[ryanman]

So, its David Haye's birthday today.
Any cards/presents in the post for him Lyle?

[El Kabong]

...actually this thread is meant to be about David Haye and his attrocious press conference, so YOU get with the plot!

[AdamGB]

hahaha "so YOU get with the plot" come on Lyle... we're not 5 years old.

This thread is about a press conference... inturn, the press conference was about David Haye and Valuev... I don't recall it being about the Klit brothers... but maybe I just missed something?

[skel1983]

Adam I am just trying to get it straight, Solis KO'd Barrett in 2 rounds in a fight where he was supposed to fight Kevin Johnson and then Fres Oquendo...and I'm just trying to judge what this means in comparison to what beating Monte Barrett meant for David Haye and that is a title shot. So by the rational of David Haye and all his idiot fans Odlainer Solis deserves a title shot yesterday as the "dangerous"(Haye's words not mine) Monte Barrett was Solis' 3rd option and yet Solis was able to KO Barrett earlier and Solis did not get knocked down in the process.

In the end, I just want to know what this win means for Solis and I wanted to use David Haye as an example because his most recent fight was against the very same Monte Barrett

and in this thread I wonder why Haye suddenly rates Valuev so high when he had PLENTY of opportunity to fight Wladimir or Vitali

Lyle he was the undisputed 200lb champion, who held the Ring,WBC,WBA and WBO belts, do you not think that gives him any advantage??

Ok if the division was full of talent and world beaters maybe he should wait for his shot but the division is weak, I dont understand why the hell Haye is anything different to other champs who have moved up in weight and challanged for a title in there first coupld of fights happens all the time.

[El Kabong]

Lyle he was the undisputed 200lb champion, who held the Ring,WBC,WBA and WBO belts, do you not think that gives him any advantage??

When was the last time that meant something in the HEAVYWEIGHT division? ......NEVER, Holyfield had to work his way up when Mike Tyson was fighting BUSTER GOD DAMN DOUGLAS so don't give me that BS about there not being any contenders out there


When Haye is mentioned one HAS to mention that he tucked tail and ran away from 2 guys who offered him direct shots at 3 recognized titles. And what does he do He brags about his skill and scurries away like the chicken shit little rat he is to fight some big Oaf of a title holder.

...and you guys circle the wagons and defend him! England, where is your pride

[skel1983]

Lyle he was the undisputed 200lb champion, who held the Ring,WBC,WBA and WBO belts, do you not think that gives him any advantage??

When was the last time that meant something in the HEAVYWEIGHT division? ......NEVER, Holyfield had to work his way up when Mike Tyson was fighting BUSTER GOD DAMN DOUGLAS so don't give me that BS about there not being any contenders out there


When Haye is mentioned one HAS to mention that he tucked tail and ranaway from 2 guys who offered him direct shots at 3 recognized titles. And what does he do He brags about his skill and scurries away like the chicken shit little rat he is to fight some big Oaf of a title holder.

...and you guys circle the wagons and defend him! England, where is your pride

So because the last undisputed 200lb champ had to work his way to a title fight thats the written rule is it?

Bullshit, do the heavyweights have different rules to the other divisions??
Why did Manny not have a few fights before fighting Hatton?? Calzaghe fighting Hopkins?? The list is endless, the state of the heavyweight divison is awful have a look at the top 10 pityful.

Difference is he doesnt have to fight the klits 48 thousand times and then fight there dad and grandad and 4 uncles in a tag team match if he is still unbeaton after the 48 thousand fights. Valuev fight is a fight for the wba title one fight win or loose walk away to other things, from the daft clauses the Klits had in the contract it's pretty safe to say they were the ones shitting themselves not Haye.

[El Kabong]

Skel you can complain all you want to about why the cruiserweights get the shit end of the stick but the 100% FACT of the matter is that even light heavyweights do better in the heavyweight division than cruiserweights.

Being a cruiserweight means either you're too slow or too big to be a champ at 175 or you are too small or lack the skills needed to be a champ at heavyweight.

EVANDER HOLYFIELD is the one guy that was a cruiserweight champ and a successful heavyweight champ. He ruled over a DEEP cruiserweight division and then fought his way to the titles at heavyweight.

Look at David Haye, he's no Evander Holyfield...his style alone (not to mention his horrible attitude) make him a potential subject to beat downs from relative nonentities in the heavyweight division.