Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

[JT Rock]

Taylor starts fights at a high pace usually winning the first half more or less easily and then he slows down...and that is perfect for AA who likes to let his opponent punch out willingly giving the first rnds away and then starting to take his opponent apart rnd by rnd...but you all know that...

I think if Taylor keeps his pace and cool he maybe can win this...but like you said this is a Sauerland event and winning this on points against the local favorite is nearly impossible(keep in mind its not whole Germany its just and always has been SAUERLAND)...but on the other hand I think AA will stop Taylor late in the fight anyway...

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Quite glad you found this thread Mr. Kickass, nice to hear some insight from Abraham's backyard.. There will be a few exchanges since Taylor likes to respond when clipped, just not sure who will benefit more. I know AA was struggling to make 160 and Taylor could easily fight at 175.. The size difference is definetly apparent

Taylor maybe taller,but I think AA will be bulkier...and like you said AA had problems with 160 often fighting drained I hope we will see a more explosive AA now that he doesn't need to drain himself that much anymore...I think this will could be a very exciting fight and who knows...Taylor was able to floor Froch(I think the first fighter to do this)he may well do this to AA and who knows how AA will deal with that...

So true, AA can work more on attribute training and less on weight loss. Definetly will make for a sharper more polished King Arthur, thinking back at the 2nd Miranda fight which I believe was at 166 he looked like a beast with the extra 6 lbs.. Again I am a huge fan of AA and this could very well be his big arrival on the scene(At least in America) if he beats Taylor. Just find it hard to go against Taylor with all his talent and after his last dissapointment

[El Kabong]

I think JT has a great chance because AA fights a bit like Hopkins in that he will give away a couple rounds before he gets going. Taylor will need to win rounds 1-4, stay close 5-9, and then win 1 round of 10-12 and he'll be the winner, EXACT same format as the Hopkins fights.

[Violent Demise]

Taylor has an excellent chance of winning the whole thing. Coming in as the underdog where not much is expected of him will actually help him

[GAME]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

[El Kabong]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

....everyone thought extra weight would help Pavlik too and he looked about as good at 168 as Ricky Hatton did at 147

[GAME]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

....everyone thought extra weight would help Pavlik too and he looked about as good at 168 as Ricky Hatton did at 147

Could be right and I guess we'll know soon enough but both Jermaine and Abraham are natural middleweights anyway. Abraham will have more energy in this fight than he has in his last few but as I say time will tell.

Cant wait

[Kirkland Laing]

The only chance is that Abraham fights at a pace slow enough that Taylor doesn't wear out again. I don't think the move up in weight will be a problem for Abraham, he was killing himself to make 160 and was due to move up anyway. He looked OK at 166 against Miranda. I think Abraham wins, even if Taylor manages to last the pace and does well I don't think he can outbox Abraham enough to win a decision in Germany.

[stebs]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

....everyone thought extra weight would help Pavlik too and he looked about as good at 168 as Ricky Hatton did at 147

That is true about Pavlik against Hopkins but he beat Taylor in the rematch at 166

[El Kabong]

That is true about Pavlik against Hopkins but he beat Taylor in the rematch at 166

But that fight was A LOT closer than the 1st match and I wouldn't be shocked if Taylor beat Pavlik if they were ever to fight again

[THE THIRD MAN]

Abraham is one tough nut and will give Jermaine a good going over.

[Kev]

I would love Jermain to win, and I think if he fights a perfect fight he can pull it off but the closer it gets the less I like his chances. A few weeks ago I would have said Taylor had a great chance, but maybe realisitically not so much.

I actually have the feeling Abraham is somewhat overated and will underperform in this tournament so Taylor will have a chance, but I think in Germany, in front of his own fans Abraham will be too much.

We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

The irony is that Taylor's best performances have been when he's lost. The first Pavlik fight and the Froch loss are the performances that most of us base his chances on.

but the truth is his 'wins' are actually less impressive. The guy who plodded cluelesslly around the ring against Cory Spinks, who almost lost and was beaten up against Winky Wright, who couldn't finish a junior middleweighti in Ouma who has since lost his last half dozen or so fights etc is hardly a guy you'd think would have any shot at winning this.

The truth is the Jeff Lacy fight is the only fight in the last 5 years or so where Taylor actually won without controversy.

His wins over Hopkins and Spinks are still disputed to this day, most feel he was very lucky indeed to get a draw with Winky, and his performance over Ouma was mediocre at best.

His other fights since then he's lost them all.

A betting man would be unswise to think he could string 6 wins together against such tough opposition now,certainly, his past form has done nothing to merit it.

He's a bit like Audley (although much better) in that we will always say he has the tools, but realisitically he's not going to use them to win.

Abraham for me actually represents his best chance, if he loses this he is not only done in the tournament but I think he will be pulled out and Green brought in.

I am rooting for him, but I won't be expecting.

[BoxingGorilla]

I keep thinking back to the Abraham Vs. Miranda fight. The image of that broken jaw and how Abraham fought through it. Rugged.

Then I recall Taylor slumped in his corner after the first Pavlik fight.


I'm going with Arthur.

[Deanrw]

Constant pressure beats Taylor, and Abraham, whom I feel is overrated, simply does not provide enough of it.

[JazMerkin]

I think it will be a similar to fight to the Winky Wright one, but Abraham has more power so will either stop him late or will win the decision seeing as its Germany rather than Memphis.

[El Kabong]

I don't think Abraham is overrated or anything, I just think the strategy he uses is too similar to Bernard Hopkins...he likes for the other fighter to get going so he can start to counter, well JT will take 4 rounds if you give him 4 rounds and in a 12 round fight where JT already has 4 rounds all he needs is 3 more, you're going to have to really press him to KO him and with that good jab and if he has a little better stamina or defense he'll win a decision.