Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

[El Kabong]

I think JT has a great chance because AA fights a bit like Hopkins in that he will give away a couple rounds before he gets going. Taylor will need to win rounds 1-4, stay close 5-9, and then win 1 round of 10-12 and he'll be the winner, EXACT same format as the Hopkins fights.

[Violent Demise]

Taylor has an excellent chance of winning the whole thing. Coming in as the underdog where not much is expected of him will actually help him

[GAME]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

[El Kabong]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

....everyone thought extra weight would help Pavlik too and he looked about as good at 168 as Ricky Hatton did at 147

[GAME]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

....everyone thought extra weight would help Pavlik too and he looked about as good at 168 as Ricky Hatton did at 147

Could be right and I guess we'll know soon enough but both Jermaine and Abraham are natural middleweights anyway. Abraham will have more energy in this fight than he has in his last few but as I say time will tell.

Cant wait

[Kirkland Laing]

The only chance is that Abraham fights at a pace slow enough that Taylor doesn't wear out again. I don't think the move up in weight will be a problem for Abraham, he was killing himself to make 160 and was due to move up anyway. He looked OK at 166 against Miranda. I think Abraham wins, even if Taylor manages to last the pace and does well I don't think he can outbox Abraham enough to win a decision in Germany.

[stebs]

Taylor had more chance of beating Pav and Froch than he has of beating Abraham.

Arthur will be even better at 12st. This will be the fight of the night

....everyone thought extra weight would help Pavlik too and he looked about as good at 168 as Ricky Hatton did at 147

That is true about Pavlik against Hopkins but he beat Taylor in the rematch at 166

[El Kabong]

That is true about Pavlik against Hopkins but he beat Taylor in the rematch at 166

But that fight was A LOT closer than the 1st match and I wouldn't be shocked if Taylor beat Pavlik if they were ever to fight again

[ryanman]

I can see him winning a 'fans verdict' but not the one that counts. Agree with most that he isnt done though. I still think he has some big wins in him.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Abraham is one tough nut and will give Jermaine a good going over.

[Kev]

I would love Jermain to win, and I think if he fights a perfect fight he can pull it off but the closer it gets the less I like his chances. A few weeks ago I would have said Taylor had a great chance, but maybe realisitically not so much.

I actually have the feeling Abraham is somewhat overated and will underperform in this tournament so Taylor will have a chance, but I think in Germany, in front of his own fans Abraham will be too much.

We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

The irony is that Taylor's best performances have been when he's lost. The first Pavlik fight and the Froch loss are the performances that most of us base his chances on.

but the truth is his 'wins' are actually less impressive. The guy who plodded cluelesslly around the ring against Cory Spinks, who almost lost and was beaten up against Winky Wright, who couldn't finish a junior middleweighti in Ouma who has since lost his last half dozen or so fights etc is hardly a guy you'd think would have any shot at winning this.

The truth is the Jeff Lacy fight is the only fight in the last 5 years or so where Taylor actually won without controversy.

His wins over Hopkins and Spinks are still disputed to this day, most feel he was very lucky indeed to get a draw with Winky, and his performance over Ouma was mediocre at best.

His other fights since then he's lost them all.

A betting man would be unswise to think he could string 6 wins together against such tough opposition now,certainly, his past form has done nothing to merit it.

He's a bit like Audley (although much better) in that we will always say he has the tools, but realisitically he's not going to use them to win.

Abraham for me actually represents his best chance, if he loses this he is not only done in the tournament but I think he will be pulled out and Green brought in.

I am rooting for him, but I won't be expecting.

[BoxingGorilla]

We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

Sometimes I think we have a psychic link.

[hfahrenheit]

I would love Jermain to win, and I think if he fights a perfect fight he can pull it off but the closer it gets the less I like his chances. A few weeks ago I would have said Taylor had a great chance, but maybe realisitically not so much.

I actually have the feeling Abraham is somewhat overated and will underperform in this tournament so Taylor will have a chance, but I think in Germany, in front of his own fans Abraham will be too much.

We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

The irony is that Taylor's best performances have been when he's lost. The first Pavlik fight and the Froch loss are the performances that most of us base his chances on.

but the truth is his 'wins' are actually less impressive. The guy who plodded cluelesslly around the ring against Cory Spinks, who almost lost and was beaten up against Winky Wright, who couldn't finish a junior middleweighti in Ouma who has since lost his last half dozen or so fights etc is hardly a guy you'd think would have any shot at winning this.

The truth is the Jeff Lacy fight is the only fight in the last 5 years or so where Taylor actually won without controversy.

His wins over Hopkins and Spinks are still disputed to this day, most feel he was very lucky indeed to get a draw with Winky, and his performance over Ouma was mediocre at best.

His other fights since then he's lost them all.

A betting man would be unswise to think he could string 6 wins together against such tough opposition now,certainly, his past form has done nothing to merit it.

He's a bit like Audley (although much better) in that we will always say he has the tools, but realisitically he's not going to use them to win.

Abraham for me actually represents his best chance, if he loses this he is not only done in the tournament but I think he will be pulled out and Green brought in.

I am rooting for him, but I won't be expecting.

i take exception with that; the only significant blow Winky landed was a head butt, which blinded JT on that side, and forced him into survival mode. It was an ugly fight, and Winky kept keying in on that blind eye; JT actually showed a lot of heart and durability in that fight, and Winky showed that he couldn't finish a severely disadvantaged JT.

[BoxingGorilla]

I keep thinking back to the Abraham Vs. Miranda fight. The image of that broken jaw and how Abraham fought through it. Rugged.

Then I recall Taylor slumped in his corner after the first Pavlik fight.


I'm going with Arthur.

[Deanrw]

Constant pressure beats Taylor, and Abraham, whom I feel is overrated, simply does not provide enough of it.