Michael Moore's "Capitalism"

[amat]

I don't like Michael Moore on a more personal level. I know you are in Korea miles and Bilbo is God knows where, but I live in the left wing capital of the world. In fact, both Farenheight 9/11 and Bowling For Columbine had their first showings in Santa Rosa, where amat was born.

Michael Moore annoys the fck out of me there is a VERY strong possibility that I might hate Michael Moore more then even Lyle does. He's manipulative, NEVER tells the whole truth, only half truths, his films are just so damn misleading about what the actual facts are. Actually, I only watched Bowling For Colombine and Farenheight 9/11, and when those films are actually fact checked it's shocking And SOOOO many people here just accepts those facts as the end all, in fact the extent of their political views extend to the 4 hours they dedicated to Michael Moore films. It pisses me off.

Seriously, I am on the same side of the fence as Moore politically about a lot of things, I HATE how he goes about it. He sucks, those are my thoughts. Oh yeah Michael Moore has been treated very well by capitalism, check out his waistline. Michael Moore is on camera an awful lot for a repulsive fat guy. Why doesn't Michael Moore shave? Is it because if he did he would look like Peter Griffin pushing a cause? Those are my thoughts.

There were some great sites debunking all the BS Michael Moore perpetuates but I am halfway to drunk I can't be bothered to find them.

[Gandalf]

Michael Moore obviously has his own ideals and perspective, but people realise that before going to the movie theater. I haven't seem Capitalism yet, but I'm pretty certain that I am going to see some images of Bush pulling stupid faces. I expect that, but then I loathe Bush and think he caused a lot more harm than good during his tenure. I think he needs to be called out. I also think he is a war criminal, but that's not really related to Capitalism the movie.

You get a film like Sicko and even with a rudimentary understanding of the US health care system you go into the movie theater knowing full well that this isn't going to be a movie extolling the virtues of a privatised/insurance based health care system.

I've just done a quick Google search on "Moore and fact checking" and there seems to be a fair bit of stuff out there. I will peruse some of it out of interest, but these are often people with political perspectives and agendas of their own to push.

And I said at the start of the thread not to bring up Michael Moores waistline!

[El Kabong]

....words cannot describe my dislike of that horrid bastard

[Gandalf]

....words cannot describe my dislike of that horrid bastard

I knew Lyle would have something to add to this thread!

[El Kabong]

Michael Moore tells half truths and twists everything to fit his view on the world. He's wrong about guns, wrong about healthcare, wrong about 9/11, and he'll be wrong about Capitalism.

Don't expect me to buy any of his propaganda anytime soon and don't expect me to brake if I see him crossing the street.


Michael Moore and Bill Maher are just horrible, I doubt if even Michael Savage mirrors them on the Right, that's how far off the board Left those two bastards are. And the thing is they want everyone to believe if anyone on the right extended a hand to them then they would be friendly towards it, but they are mean, bitter, and spiteful people and they enjoy playing to their base moreso than anyone main stream on the right...Limbaugh isn't even close to being as polarizing as those two

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Michael Moore tells half truths and twists everything to fit his view on the world. He's wrong about guns, wrong about healthcare, wrong about 9/11, and he'll be wrong about Capitalism.

Don't expect me to buy any of his propaganda anytime soon and don't expect me to brake if I see him crossing the street.


Michael Moore and Bill Maher are just horrible, I doubt if even Michael Savage mirrors them on the Right, that's how far off the board Left those two bastards are. And the thing is they want everyone to believe if anyone on the right extended a hand to them then they would be friendly towards it, but they are mean, bitter, and spiteful people and they enjoy playing to their base moreso than anyone main stream on the right...Limbaugh isn't even close to being as polarizing as those two

er no!

[Gandalf]

Michael Moore tells half truths and twists everything to fit his view on the world. He's wrong about guns, wrong about healthcare, wrong about 9/11, and he'll be wrong about Capitalism.

Don't expect me to buy any of his propaganda anytime soon and don't expect me to brake if I see him crossing the street.


Michael Moore and Bill Maher are just horrible, I doubt if even Michael Savage mirrors them on the Right, that's how far off the board Left those two bastards are. And the thing is they want everyone to believe if anyone on the right extended a hand to them then they would be friendly towards it, but they are mean, bitter, and spiteful people and they enjoy playing to their base moreso than anyone main stream on the right...Limbaugh isn't even close to being as polarizing as those two

How is he wrong about guns? They are dangerous weapons and kill a lot of people in the US each year. I have never understood the whole gun culture thing TBH.

How is he wrong about healthcare? He showed how corporate greed and irresponsible government policy has left a lot of people without insurance and how even those with insurance are oftentimes rejected of their claims. Health costs are apparently the main reason for bankruptcy in the States. The system needs to be reformed and Moore advocates this.

How was he wrong about 9-11? Bin Laden has never been captured. Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks anyway and the excuse for war was a lie. Both wars continue all these years later and Afghanistan appears to be unwinnable. Even the so called democratic government cheated its way to victory. Surely, that wasn't the goal. Many soldiers died just to replace a corrupt system with another less evil but equally corrupt system?

How is he wrong about capitalism? The system has failed and America is in deep credit. Wall street and the banking leaders continue to bank whilst the biggest economic disaster since the great depression is right around the corner (next year is when it really comes apart). The system as it currently exists does not work, it needs to be reformed.

I'm not attacking you here, Lyle. I'm just curious to know why you oppose Moore so much on these things. As far as I can see Moore is a fairly moral human being who wants better for his fellow citizens. Is that such a bad thing? I don't understand the intense dislike some have for Moore really.

[Fenster]

Moore is a bit of a hypocrite and comes out with some shit but he makes serious subjects, and boring ones, entertaining, which obviously gets people to take interest. Good stuff.

Plus if Lyle thinks he's wrong about everything that's a good thing too. Lets be honest now.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I don't like Michael Moore on a more personal level. I know you are in Korea miles and Bilbo is God knows where, but I live in the left wing capital of the world. In fact, both Farenheight 9/11 and Bowling For Columbine had their first showings in Santa Rosa, where amat was born.

Michael Moore annoys the fck out of me there is a VERY strong possibility that I might hate Michael Moore more then even Lyle does. He's manipulative, NEVER tells the whole truth, only half truths, his films are just so damn misleading about what the actual facts are. Actually, I only watched Bowling For Colombine and Farenheight 9/11, and when those films are actually fact checked it's shocking And SOOOO many people here just accepts those facts as the end all, in fact the extent of their political views extend to the 4 hours they dedicated to Michael Moore films. It pisses me off.

Seriously, I am on the same side of the fence as Moore politically about a lot of things, I HATE how he goes about it. He sucks, those are my thoughts. Oh yeah Michael Moore has been treated very well by capitalism, check out his waistline. Michael Moore is on camera an awful lot for a repulsive fat guy. Why doesn't Michael Moore shave? Is it because if he did he would look like Peter Griffin pushing a cause? Those are my thoughts.

There were some great sites debunking all the BS Michael Moore perpetuates but I am halfway to drunk I can't be bothered to find them.

Quite. Just went to prove that MM was responsible for making those bullied kids kill all those lovely people. He's clearly a communist for suggesting such a thing.