Michael Moore's "Capitalism"

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm sorry, W wasn't the greatest President we've ever had but he handled 9/11 in a way any leader would have.

Yes, by sitting dumbfounded in front of a class of six year olds for ten minutes then flying to Nebraska and hiding in the side of a mountain for three days before going on TV to talk to the peeps. Then failing to get the guy behind the attack, then claiming he wasn't bothered whether he caught him or not.

[amat]

I'm pretty sure I recall Bush coming on TV later that day. Maybe he was in Nebraska but I don't think it was 3 days before he came on TV. And yeah, it's the Bullshitometer Oumafan referenced only it might be worse then Fox News. Agenda or no agenda he is a chronic bullshitter. And yes he is WRONG about guns him picking fights with fucken Charlton Heston (who was ignorant anyways) and Dick Clark (like Dick Clark was actually aware of that lady's situation) was just stupid. The whole thing was like a giant Starr post, it was made to distract you from the real points. He's a douche, pompous, arrogant and because of that he's also fat.

[CFH]

I'm pretty sure I recall Bush coming on TV later that day. Maybe he was in Nebraska but I don't think it was 3 days before he came on TV. And yeah, it's the Bullshitometer Oumafan referenced only it might be worse then Fox News. Agenda or no agenda he is a chronic bullshitter. And yes he is WRONG about guns him picking fights with fucken Charlton Heston (who was ignorant anyways) and Dick Clark (like Dick Clark was actually aware of that lady's situation) was just stupid. The whole thing was like a giant Starr post, it was made to distract you from the real points. He's a douche, pompous, arrogant and because of that he's also fat.

Wasn't Heston suffering the affects of Alzhiemers at the time as well?

[Gandalf]

I'm pretty sure I recall Bush coming on TV later that day. Maybe he was in Nebraska but I don't think it was 3 days before he came on TV. And yeah, it's the Bullshitometer Oumafan referenced only it might be worse then Fox News. Agenda or no agenda he is a chronic bullshitter. And yes he is WRONG about guns him picking fights with fucken Charlton Heston (who was ignorant anyways) and Dick Clark (like Dick Clark was actually aware of that lady's situation) was just stupid. The whole thing was like a giant Starr post, it was made to distract you from the real points. He's a douche, pompous, arrogant and because of that he's also fat.

Wasn't Heston suffering the affects of Alzhiemers at the time as well?

Heston only announced that in August 2002 according to Wiki. The interview must have been a fair time before anyone outside of Hestons camp would have had any suspicions. At the end of the day Heston invited Moore in and Moore asked some questions that Heston was unable to deal with. I don't see the big deal. Moore left without shooting anybody with a gun and maybe Heston felt like an idiot for letting Moore in. Heston was lucid enough, it wasn't like he was in the advanced stages of whatever illness was becoming apparent.

[El Kabong]

Yes, by sitting dumbfounded in front of a class of six year olds for ten minutes then flying to Nebraska and hiding in the side of a mountain for three days before going on TV to talk to the peeps. Then failing to get the guy behind the attack, then claiming he wasn't bothered whether he caught him or not.

...surprise surprise, guess who bought that fat moron's story.

When the first plane hit nobody knew what was going on Ari Fleischer told W to stay where he was and not mention anything until they gathered the proper information. After the 2nd plane hit and Bush was notified of it, he was escorted out of the classroom and got on board Air Force 1 and later on September 11th he addressed the American people.

People like you Kirkland will call out any and all "talking heads" on the right without batting an eye, but you will apparently take anything Michael Moore or Bill Maher says as the 100% gospel truth....fucking hypocrits

[OumaFan]

Bill Maher on the other hand is awesome.

[El Kabong]

Bill Maher on the other hand is awesome.

He's an awesome jackass and a hypocrit as well, same with Keith Olberman

[amat]

Bill Maher has always been so smug I can't stand that type of attitude so I haven't watched much of him. Keith Olberman does a pretty good job in studio for Football Night in America. Otherwise he's the democratic Bill O'Reilly. Obviously I find O'Reilly 10 times more insufferable but that's just because of my political leanings.

[Kirkland Laing]

Bill Maher on the other hand is awesome.

He's an awesome jackass and a hypocrit as well, same with Keith Olberman

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

[El Kabong]

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

Well on religion alone, Maher is an unabashed atheist and he dislikes anything having to do with religion(especially organized religion) and he doesn't want them pushing their religion on everyone else (that's fair enough and on that point I agree) but at the same time he pushes his atheism on everyone. He also calls out Republican talking heads for stoking partisanship and racism but he does the exact same thing, it's just he's a liberal so it's ok when he does it.

Miles, guns are legal in America which is probably why we have more gun violence and your numbers mean NOTHING because they do not relay how LEGAL gun owners handle their weapons as opposed to just some thug who wants to do a drive by.

Despite what anyone may think, we were going to Iraq 9/11 or no 9/11. Both Bill Clinton AND Al Gore escalated their stance on Iraq in the late 1990's and early 2000's. They may not have decided to overthrow Saddam but there was going to be a military action taken against Iraq no matter what.

As for Capitalism, are there more poor people in America or in China, India, and Brazil? I'd say we're pretty fair off.

[Gandalf]

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

Well on religion alone, Maher is an unabashed atheist and he dislikes anything having to do with religion(especially organized religion) and he doesn't want them pushing their religion on everyone else (that's fair enough and on that point I agree) but at the same time he pushes his atheism on everyone. He also calls out Republican talking heads for stoking partisanship and racism but he does the exact same thing, it's just he's a liberal so it's ok when he does it.

Miles, guns are legal in America which is probably why we have more gun violence and your numbers mean NOTHING because they do not relay how LEGAL gun owners handle their weapons as opposed to just some thug who wants to do a drive by.

Despite what anyone may think, we were going to Iraq 9/11 or no 9/11. Both Bill Clinton AND Al Gore escalated their stance on Iraq in the late 1990's and early 2000's. They may not have decided to overthrow Saddam but there was going to be a military action taken against Iraq no matter what.

As for Capitalism, are there more poor people in America or in China, India, and Brazil? I'd say we're pretty fair off.

The numbers do mean something though. The numbers indicate quite clearly that gun crime in America is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world. Just look at the difference between America and Japan where guns are not easily obtained. It's immense. I do agree that those in legal possession of firearms are probably less likely to commit offences, but I don't know the statistics for that.

The war on Iraq we have debated in the past and I think we have the same views we have always had really.

In terms of Capitalism, it seems that quality of life has been stagnating for many years now in the US and is now being hit hard because of years of letting the markets just do what they want. It does need serious reforming. Of course, the quality of life is decent compared with most places, but it is slipping for many people week by week. There is no obvious recovery in sight and national debt is at horrifying levels. It's a topic that has sparked my curiosity in the last few months and I'm following things more than I should. A lot of doom and gloom stuff. I should stop.

[Kirkland Laing]

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

Well on religion alone, Maher is an unabashed atheist and he dislikes anything having to do with religion(especially organized religion) and he doesn't want them pushing their religion on everyone else (that's fair enough and on that point I agree) but at the same time he pushes his atheism on everyone. He also calls out Republican talking heads for stoking partisanship and racism but he does the exact same thing, it's just he's a liberal so it's ok when he does it.

Miles, guns are legal in America which is probably why we have more gun violence and your numbers mean NOTHING because they do not relay how LEGAL gun owners handle their weapons as opposed to just some thug who wants to do a drive by.

Despite what anyone may think, we were going to Iraq 9/11 or no 9/11. Both Bill Clinton AND Al Gore escalated their stance on Iraq in the late 1990's and early 2000's. They may not have decided to overthrow Saddam but there was going to be a military action taken against Iraq no matter what.

As for Capitalism, are there more poor people in America or in China, India, and Brazil? I'd say we're pretty fair off.

Show me one specific instance of Bill Maher being hypocritical.

And Clinton passed legislation that specifically prevented any US military invasion of Iraq. He knew it was coming the next time the GOP won an election, knew it would be a disaster and actually passed legislation preventing the US using military force to change the regime in Iraq.

[Kirkland Laing]

Yes, by sitting dumbfounded in front of a class of six year olds for ten minutes then flying to Nebraska and hiding in the side of a mountain for three days before going on TV to talk to the peeps. Then failing to get the guy behind the attack, then claiming he wasn't bothered whether he caught him or not.

...surprise surprise, guess who bought that fat moron's story.

When the first plane hit nobody knew what was going on Ari Fleischer told W to stay where he was and not mention anything until they gathered the proper information. After the 2nd plane hit and Bush was notified of it, he was escorted out of the classroom and got on board Air Force 1 and later on September 11th he addressed the American people.

People like you Kirkland will call out any and all "talking heads" on the right without batting an eye, but you will apparently take anything Michael Moore or Bill Maher says as the 100% gospel truth....fucking hypocrits

You're wrong again! After he'd been told the second plane hit he sat there for seven minutes. Then flew to Nebraska and hid in the side of a mountain for three days. Giuliani went on TV the same day and made a reputation for himself vy taking control while Bush was hiding. Then Bush failed to get the guy who did it and then said he wasn't bothered if he didn't get him.

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