Michael Moore's "Capitalism"

[OumaFan]

Bill Maher on the other hand is awesome.

[El Kabong]

Bill Maher on the other hand is awesome.

He's an awesome jackass and a hypocrit as well, same with Keith Olberman

[amat]

Bill Maher has always been so smug I can't stand that type of attitude so I haven't watched much of him. Keith Olberman does a pretty good job in studio for Football Night in America. Otherwise he's the democratic Bill O'Reilly. Obviously I find O'Reilly 10 times more insufferable but that's just because of my political leanings.

[Kirkland Laing]

Bill Maher on the other hand is awesome.

He's an awesome jackass and a hypocrit as well, same with Keith Olberman

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

[El Kabong]

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

Well on religion alone, Maher is an unabashed atheist and he dislikes anything having to do with religion(especially organized religion) and he doesn't want them pushing their religion on everyone else (that's fair enough and on that point I agree) but at the same time he pushes his atheism on everyone. He also calls out Republican talking heads for stoking partisanship and racism but he does the exact same thing, it's just he's a liberal so it's ok when he does it.

Miles, guns are legal in America which is probably why we have more gun violence and your numbers mean NOTHING because they do not relay how LEGAL gun owners handle their weapons as opposed to just some thug who wants to do a drive by.

Despite what anyone may think, we were going to Iraq 9/11 or no 9/11. Both Bill Clinton AND Al Gore escalated their stance on Iraq in the late 1990's and early 2000's. They may not have decided to overthrow Saddam but there was going to be a military action taken against Iraq no matter what.

As for Capitalism, are there more poor people in America or in China, India, and Brazil? I'd say we're pretty fair off.

[Gandalf]

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

Well on religion alone, Maher is an unabashed atheist and he dislikes anything having to do with religion(especially organized religion) and he doesn't want them pushing their religion on everyone else (that's fair enough and on that point I agree) but at the same time he pushes his atheism on everyone. He also calls out Republican talking heads for stoking partisanship and racism but he does the exact same thing, it's just he's a liberal so it's ok when he does it.

Miles, guns are legal in America which is probably why we have more gun violence and your numbers mean NOTHING because they do not relay how LEGAL gun owners handle their weapons as opposed to just some thug who wants to do a drive by.

Despite what anyone may think, we were going to Iraq 9/11 or no 9/11. Both Bill Clinton AND Al Gore escalated their stance on Iraq in the late 1990's and early 2000's. They may not have decided to overthrow Saddam but there was going to be a military action taken against Iraq no matter what.

As for Capitalism, are there more poor people in America or in China, India, and Brazil? I'd say we're pretty fair off.

The numbers do mean something though. The numbers indicate quite clearly that gun crime in America is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world. Just look at the difference between America and Japan where guns are not easily obtained. It's immense. I do agree that those in legal possession of firearms are probably less likely to commit offences, but I don't know the statistics for that.

The war on Iraq we have debated in the past and I think we have the same views we have always had really.

In terms of Capitalism, it seems that quality of life has been stagnating for many years now in the US and is now being hit hard because of years of letting the markets just do what they want. It does need serious reforming. Of course, the quality of life is decent compared with most places, but it is slipping for many people week by week. There is no obvious recovery in sight and national debt is at horrifying levels. It's a topic that has sparked my curiosity in the last few months and I'm following things more than I should. A lot of doom and gloom stuff. I should stop.

[El Kabong]

Miles, that tells about gun crime, it doesn't tell about how many gun oweners there are (it just uses population in general which means felons, violent criminals, mentally unstable, etc), it also doesn't tell about how many of the guns used in crimes were legally owned or not (which is a huge issue)...so you only see the bad things guns do in what you posted, you don't see how responsible the vast majority of LEGAL gun owners are and you don't see where guns are used to stop crime.

[amat]

Yeah I'm actually for gun laws as in making sure we try to keep them in the right hands but I badly want to own a gun, almost to the point where I would want to just ask some people if they know where I can get one I'm sure I could. That would lead to trouble but I live alone in an apartment in a nice area but it's 300,000 thousand people here and I live by 2 schools where there are people scheming there every night. It's kind of nerve racking sometimes I've had a crackhead (literally, a complete fucking crackhead) sneak in my house when I was checking my mail after I got home at like 11 at night and try to rummage my dresser. Other times I've had some complete fcking strangers knock on my door hella late at night probably because they smelled weed at like 2 am. I've probably had 3 nerve racking moments in my time living here where I've really wanted a gun and almost felt like I needed one. It would be better to own one I would never support

[Kirkland Laing]

How is Bill Maher a hypocrite?

Well on religion alone, Maher is an unabashed atheist and he dislikes anything having to do with religion(especially organized religion) and he doesn't want them pushing their religion on everyone else (that's fair enough and on that point I agree) but at the same time he pushes his atheism on everyone. He also calls out Republican talking heads for stoking partisanship and racism but he does the exact same thing, it's just he's a liberal so it's ok when he does it.

Miles, guns are legal in America which is probably why we have more gun violence and your numbers mean NOTHING because they do not relay how LEGAL gun owners handle their weapons as opposed to just some thug who wants to do a drive by.

Despite what anyone may think, we were going to Iraq 9/11 or no 9/11. Both Bill Clinton AND Al Gore escalated their stance on Iraq in the late 1990's and early 2000's. They may not have decided to overthrow Saddam but there was going to be a military action taken against Iraq no matter what.

As for Capitalism, are there more poor people in America or in China, India, and Brazil? I'd say we're pretty fair off.

Show me one specific instance of Bill Maher being hypocritical.

And Clinton passed legislation that specifically prevented any US military invasion of Iraq. He knew it was coming the next time the GOP won an election, knew it would be a disaster and actually passed legislation preventing the US using military force to change the regime in Iraq.

[El Kabong]

Bill Maher, either you agree with him or he thinks you're a moron, and that is hypocritical and when he gets called out on it he gets his feelings hurt or he tries to lamely play it off with a joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGxa2xytwTw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECI4QK_mXA


Oh really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAV_UoIfgc

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm not watching videos, you need to explain a specific instance of him being hypocritical. That's where your actions contradict your words. Here's an example of somebody being a hypocrite :

The right-wing American commentator Rush Limbaugh has blamed the National Football League Players Association, the media and "race hustlers", such as Al Sharpton, for his being ousted from a bid to purchase the St Louis Rams.
Limbaugh was quoted on Bloomberg.com as having said on his talk radio show that unfair media coverage and pressure from Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, two black clergyman and civil-rights leaders whom he called "race hustlers", had contributed to the failure of his interest in the Rams.


The Guardian
16 October 2009




"So Much for the Post-Racial America. That's how Rush treats people — in the Martin Luther King aspiration that the content of one's character is what matters, not the color of one's skin. Yet, in the media narrative, he's somehow the one who's got a race issue — and the guys who trade on race, live and breathe it 24/7, are held up as our public conscience."

Andrew McCarthy
National Review
October 16th, 2009





As I explained on my radio show, this spectacle is bigger than I am on several levels. There is a contempt in the news business, including the sportswriter community, for conservatives that reflects the blind hatred espoused by Messrs. Sharpton and Jackson. "Racism" is too often their sledgehammer. And it is being used to try to keep citizens who don't share the left's agenda from participating in the full array of opportunities this nation otherwise affords each of us. It was on display many years ago in an effort to smear Clarence Thomas with racist stereotypes and keep him off the Supreme Court. More recently, it was employed against patriotic citizens who attended town-hall meetings and tea-party protests.

These intimidation tactics are working and spreading, and they are a blight on our society.

Rush Limbaugh
The Race Card, Football and Me
Wall Street Journal op-ed
October 16th, 2009




"He's a racist"......."He's an angry racist."

Rush Limbaugh on Professor Henry Gates
2009





"She's a bigot. She's a racist."

Rush Limbaugh on Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor
2009




"The biggest reverse racist in history."

Rush Limbaugh on Barack Obama
2009



"Just as he is ACORN, just as he is Van Jones, he is racism."

Rush Limbaugh on Barack Obama
2009



"How do you get promoted in a Barack Obama administration? By hating white people."

Rush Limbaugh on the Obama administration
2009





"You know, racism in this country is the exclusive province of the left."

Rush Limbaugh
2009






"We're witnessing racism all this week that led up to the inauguration. We're being told that we have to hope he succeeds. That we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father's black, because this is the first black president."

Rush Limbaugh
2009






"The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That's what Obama's about, gang. He's angry, he's gonna cut this country down to size, he's gonna make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made, its mistreatment of minorities. I know exactly what's going on."

Rush Limbaugh
2009





".....an outpost of racism and liberalism."

Rush Limbaugh on the NFL
2009







"They're moving to the back of the bus. They're saying, 'I can't use that drinking fountain? Okay. I can't use that restroom? Okay.' That's the modern day Republican Party. The equivalent of the Old South. The new oppressed minority."

Rush Limbaugh
2009







"Obama’s America, white kids getting beat up on school buses now. You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety but in Obama’s America the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on,' and, of course, everybody says the white kid deserved it, he was born a racist, he’s white."

Rush Limbaugh
2009






"You let George Bush's Navy gun down three black teenagers out there on the open sea and I guarantee there would be hell to pay.... If only President Obama had known that the three Somali community organizers were actually young black Muslim teenagers I'm sure he wouldn't have given the order to shoot."


Rush Limbaugh
2009