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    Default Re: Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

    Abraham is one tough nut and will give Jermaine a good going over.

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    Default Re: Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

    I would love Jermain to win, and I think if he fights a perfect fight he can pull it off but the closer it gets the less I like his chances. A few weeks ago I would have said Taylor had a great chance, but maybe realisitically not so much.

    I actually have the feeling Abraham is somewhat overated and will underperform in this tournament so Taylor will have a chance, but I think in Germany, in front of his own fans Abraham will be too much.

    We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

    The irony is that Taylor's best performances have been when he's lost. The first Pavlik fight and the Froch loss are the performances that most of us base his chances on.

    but the truth is his 'wins' are actually less impressive. The guy who plodded cluelesslly around the ring against Cory Spinks, who almost lost and was beaten up against Winky Wright, who couldn't finish a junior middleweighti in Ouma who has since lost his last half dozen or so fights etc is hardly a guy you'd think would have any shot at winning this.

    The truth is the Jeff Lacy fight is the only fight in the last 5 years or so where Taylor actually won without controversy.

    His wins over Hopkins and Spinks are still disputed to this day, most feel he was very lucky indeed to get a draw with Winky, and his performance over Ouma was mediocre at best.

    His other fights since then he's lost them all.

    A betting man would be unswise to think he could string 6 wins together against such tough opposition now,certainly, his past form has done nothing to merit it.

    He's a bit like Audley (although much better) in that we will always say he has the tools, but realisitically he's not going to use them to win.

    Abraham for me actually represents his best chance, if he loses this he is not only done in the tournament but I think he will be pulled out and Green brought in.

    I am rooting for him, but I won't be expecting.

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    Default Re: Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

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    I was favoring Arthur, but the more I watch fight highlights and look at the competition each has faced, and the fact that Taylor is said to have trained more for this fight than any other, the more I lean toward Taylor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I would love Jermain to win, and I think if he fights a perfect fight he can pull it off but the closer it gets the less I like his chances. A few weeks ago I would have said Taylor had a great chance, but maybe realisitically not so much.

    I actually have the feeling Abraham is somewhat overated and will underperform in this tournament so Taylor will have a chance, but I think in Germany, in front of his own fans Abraham will be too much.

    We all generally feel that Taylor needs to ko Abraham to win or at least put him down but really Abraham has never once displayed a weak jaw, (even when it almost fell off) and Taylor despite flooring both Pavlik and Froch is not a big puncher really, certainly his career doesn't indicate that.

    The irony is that Taylor's best performances have been when he's lost. The first Pavlik fight and the Froch loss are the performances that most of us base his chances on.

    but the truth is his 'wins' are actually less impressive. The guy who plodded cluelesslly around the ring against Cory Spinks, who almost lost and was beaten up against Winky Wright, who couldn't finish a junior middleweighti in Ouma who has since lost his last half dozen or so fights etc is hardly a guy you'd think would have any shot at winning this.

    The truth is the Jeff Lacy fight is the only fight in the last 5 years or so where Taylor actually won without controversy.

    His wins over Hopkins and Spinks are still disputed to this day, most feel he was very lucky indeed to get a draw with Winky, and his performance over Ouma was mediocre at best.

    His other fights since then he's lost them all.

    A betting man would be unswise to think he could string 6 wins together against such tough opposition now,certainly, his past form has done nothing to merit it.

    He's a bit like Audley (although much better) in that we will always say he has the tools, but realisitically he's not going to use them to win.

    Abraham for me actually represents his best chance, if he loses this he is not only done in the tournament but I think he will be pulled out and Green brought in.

    I am rooting for him, but I won't be expecting.
    i take exception with that; the only significant blow Winky landed was a head butt, which blinded JT on that side, and forced him into survival mode. It was an ugly fight, and Winky kept keying in on that blind eye; JT actually showed a lot of heart and durability in that fight, and Winky showed that he couldn't finish a severely disadvantaged JT.
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    Default Re: Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

    ...speaking of Winky why has he disappeared? I know he's older now but at 160-175 he could still contend there.

    Anyway, AA is going to find out it's difficult to give rounds away to a guy that can box, it's different when you do it to Edison Miranda who is just a slugger, there's no real threat of Miranda doing his thing over the distance and limiting the damage you do to him.

    JT has hurt Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch, it'll be interesting if he connects big vs Abraham

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ...speaking of Winky why has he disappeared? I know he's older now but at 160-175 he could still contend there.

    Anyway, AA is going to find out it's difficult to give rounds away to a guy that can box, it's different when you do it to Edison Miranda who is just a slugger, there's no real threat of Miranda doing his thing over the distance and limiting the damage you do to him.

    JT has hurt Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch, it'll be interesting if he connects big vs Abraham
    Agreed.

    I think tWinky would have been an excellent addition to the super six, and further would add even more depth and provide some quality competition the 168lbs division. He would have been an excellent gate keeper for the Andre's.
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    Default Re: Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

    imo winky isnt a gatekeeper yet, i think he would beat both andres, lose a close pts to froch, taylor about even and then lose to kessler - but do better than b hop would if he fought kessler.

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    Default Re: Whats Jermain Taylors Chance Saturday Night?

    on another note, i think b hop would be more than willing to participate if someone dropped out, would be amazing!

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