Meet the new WBA Heavyweight Champion of the world

[AdamGB]

I think he ended up as a cruiser because he was young.

He had to stop boxing as a light heavy in the amatuers when he hit his twentys, couldn't make the weight anymore.

I think he's been out growing cruiser for a while now, but the closer he was getting to belts/unification etc the longer he was going to stay in that division. Might as well see the job through when you're almost there.

[El Kabong]

...Haye should have committed himself to being a heavyweight. If he was walking around at 220-240 he should have been able to make 210-218 easy and fought as a heavyweight starting out and grown into it....but I'm thinking that his handlers figured that it may have exposed him early to too much danger and that's another reason to question the hell out of the guy.

Michael Moorer went from 175 to heavyweight and jumped right to heavyweight with no issue.

[DaxxKahn]

...Haye should have committed himself to being a heavyweight. If he was walking around at 220-240 he should have been able to make 210-218 easy and fought as a heavyweight starting out and grown into it....but I'm thinking that his handlers figured that it may have exposed him early to too much danger and that's another reason to question the hell out of the guy.

Michael Moorer went from 175 to heavyweight and jumped right to heavyweight with no issue.

David Haye is no where near the caliber a prime Michale Moorer is

[Spicoli]

...Haye should have committed himself to being a heavyweight. If he was walking around at 220-240 he should have been able to make 210-218 easy and fought as a heavyweight starting out and grown into it....but I'm thinking that his handlers figured that it may have exposed him early to too much danger and that's another reason to question the hell out of the guy.

Michael Moorer went from 175 to heavyweight and jumped right to heavyweight with no issue.

David Haye is no where near the caliber a prime Michale Moorer is

No doubt.Moorer was well polished,rounded.Shite I think that version of Cooper Double M faced takes Haye to the brink and could leave him there

[Master]

Haye will beat Valuev, then take care and retire Ruiz (for the US fans), then Audley (for the British fans) and lose to Wlad.

[El Kabong]

Haye will beat Valuev, then take care and retire Ruiz (for the US fans), then Audley (for the British fans) and lose to Wlad.

...is that his 10 year or 20 year plan?

[El Kabong]

...I think after the Valuev fight you Haye fans are going to be wondering "Is Adam Booth the best man to train David Haye?"...what has that guy done? Does he have any other fighters? Does he know anything about boxing?

Surely there are trainers who are better suited to get David Haye in FIGHTING shape and not just in shape.

[HattonTheHammer]

...I think after the Valuev fight you Haye fans are going to be wondering "Is Adam Booth the best man to train David Haye?"...what has that guy done? Does he have any other fighters? Does he know anything about boxing?

Surely there are trainers who are better suited to get David Haye in FIGHTING shape and not just in shape.

Ive always been of the assumption that adam booth was a bit.................you know

Anywho hayemakers main boy fought his 2nd fight last night........12 months after turning pro!!

some things never change

by the time david haye is fighting his 30th pro contest he`ll be wearing a pissbag!!

[El Kabong]

To me, Booth just doesn't seem to know what he's doing as a manager or as a trainer

[rjj tszyu]

Haye will beat Valuev, then take care and retire Ruiz (for the US fans), then Audley (for the British fans) and lose to Wlad.

Just dug up this old thread and found this quote from Master. This was before the Valuev fight obviously. Do you have a time machine mate? He didn't even say get KO'd by Wlad which is the way I thought Haye would lose if he was to lose.

[Master]

I also said Wlad would win on points, where everyone said it would be a KO either way.

[Conrad]

If Haye is the man to finally slay the giant then I think he deserves all the credit in the world, even from Lyle. Haye has no chin and shit stanima but you gotta hand it to him, he has great athleticism and power. Maybe not proven at HW yet but that doesn't mean he doesn't have it....

Another previous pic...

[El Kabong]

If Haye is the man to finally slay the giant then I think he deserves all the credit in the world, even from Lyle. Haye has no chin and shit stanima but you gotta hand it to him, he has great athleticism and power. Maybe not proven at HW yet but that doesn't mean he doesn't have it....

Even if Haye beats Valuev, David will not have been in with a heavyweight power puncher and once again it'll bring up the issue of his chin. If David can not be bothered by Valuev's boxing then there may be hope for him in the division, but if he's stymied by Valuev's boxing then it's going to be a brutal run in the heavyweight division for him.

When in his career has David Haye shown he can stand in with a top 10 heavyweight?? His fight vs Bonin was too short and his fight vs Monte Barrett was sloppy as hell.

[HattonTheHammer]

I cant make my mind up about david haye...

He`s cocky...but he isnt american cocky, just very sure of himself

Either way every single fight fan who has any passion for this sport should be preying haye knocks the freak spark out and sends him into retirement!

[El Kabong]

I cant make my mind up about david haye...

He`s cocky...but he isnt american cocky, just very sure of himself

Either way every single fight fan who has any passion for this sport should be preying haye knocks the freak spark out and sends him into retirement!

#1 What do you mean by "American cocky"?

#2 What makes you think Haye is any better for the sport than Valuev, neither of them want to fight the best fighters in the division.