Meet the new WBA Heavyweight Champion of the world

[El Kabong]

...Haye should have committed himself to being a heavyweight. If he was walking around at 220-240 he should have been able to make 210-218 easy and fought as a heavyweight starting out and grown into it....but I'm thinking that his handlers figured that it may have exposed him early to too much danger and that's another reason to question the hell out of the guy.

Michael Moorer went from 175 to heavyweight and jumped right to heavyweight with no issue.

[DaxxKahn]

...Haye should have committed himself to being a heavyweight. If he was walking around at 220-240 he should have been able to make 210-218 easy and fought as a heavyweight starting out and grown into it....but I'm thinking that his handlers figured that it may have exposed him early to too much danger and that's another reason to question the hell out of the guy.

Michael Moorer went from 175 to heavyweight and jumped right to heavyweight with no issue.

David Haye is no where near the caliber a prime Michale Moorer is

[Spicoli]

...Haye should have committed himself to being a heavyweight. If he was walking around at 220-240 he should have been able to make 210-218 easy and fought as a heavyweight starting out and grown into it....but I'm thinking that his handlers figured that it may have exposed him early to too much danger and that's another reason to question the hell out of the guy.

Michael Moorer went from 175 to heavyweight and jumped right to heavyweight with no issue.

David Haye is no where near the caliber a prime Michale Moorer is

No doubt.Moorer was well polished,rounded.Shite I think that version of Cooper Double M faced takes Haye to the brink and could leave him there

[Master]

Haye will beat Valuev, then take care and retire Ruiz (for the US fans), then Audley (for the British fans) and lose to Wlad.

[El Kabong]

Haye will beat Valuev, then take care and retire Ruiz (for the US fans), then Audley (for the British fans) and lose to Wlad.

...is that his 10 year or 20 year plan?

[El Kabong]

...I think after the Valuev fight you Haye fans are going to be wondering "Is Adam Booth the best man to train David Haye?"...what has that guy done? Does he have any other fighters? Does he know anything about boxing?

Surely there are trainers who are better suited to get David Haye in FIGHTING shape and not just in shape.

[HattonTheHammer]

...I think after the Valuev fight you Haye fans are going to be wondering "Is Adam Booth the best man to train David Haye?"...what has that guy done? Does he have any other fighters? Does he know anything about boxing?

Surely there are trainers who are better suited to get David Haye in FIGHTING shape and not just in shape.

Ive always been of the assumption that adam booth was a bit.................you know

Anywho hayemakers main boy fought his 2nd fight last night........12 months after turning pro!!

some things never change

by the time david haye is fighting his 30th pro contest he`ll be wearing a pissbag!!

[El Kabong]

To me, Booth just doesn't seem to know what he's doing as a manager or as a trainer

[rjj tszyu]

To me, Booth just doesn't seem to know what he's doing as a manager or as a trainer

How can you say that about him as a trainer? His only real fighter of note is Haye and whether or not you like him or not he was undisputed Cruiserweight champ. Now even if Haye had the natural ability of Ali (which he doesn't) he would still need good direction to become the best in the world of a whole division and he got that direction off Booth.

I myself have questioned whether Booth is "World Class" in the terms of a Manny Steward or Angelo Dundee but to say he doesn't know what he's doing as a trainer at all is a bit off IMO!

[rjj tszyu]

Haye will beat Valuev, then take care and retire Ruiz (for the US fans), then Audley (for the British fans) and lose to Wlad.

Just dug up this old thread and found this quote from Master. This was before the Valuev fight obviously. Do you have a time machine mate? He didn't even say get KO'd by Wlad which is the way I thought Haye would lose if he was to lose.

[Master]

I also said Wlad would win on points, where everyone said it would be a KO either way.