Official Super Six Follow Live Thread

[tomcy03]

I think you guys are overestimating the 'robbery'

The first 8 or 9 rounds ok Froch looked awkward but what did Dirrell do apart from dodge punches?

It WAS a close fight imo, kind of like the first Sam Peter James Toney fight.

Dirrell was techinically much better and landed the better shots, but about three quarters of the fight was Froch pressing which obviosly is worth something.

The point was bullshit though, not sure if that affected the scores, I dont think it does as Froch had two 115-113 but it shouldnt have happened.

Dirrell can leave feeling he gave a good performance but too timid, Froch needs to work on a LOT though and can count himself very lucky tonight.

Dirrell is a CLASS ACT in the post fight interview though, I really hope he can bounce back from this.

What rounds did you score for Froch?

I didn't score it on a round by round but I never felt any rounds were really decisive.

I think there is a lot of Froch hate on the boards and a lot of attention on his ugly fighting style and looking awkward against fast, slick opponents.

He certainly DID look awkward and missed wildly at time but at the same time Froch made the fight. He was constantly coming forward and throwing punches, and Dirrell mostly dodged and held on. He only came back with anything later in the fight, the championship rounds.

Let me ask you this, if one fighter comes forward for a whole round, throws punches and misses, but the other fighter doesn't come forward at all, and just dodged, who wins the round?

That is the question really, yes Dirrell made Froch look bad at times but he didn't do anything offensively himself in most of the rounds.

In such cases I guess two of the judges went for the fighter who was at least pressing the action and throwing punches.

I don't think it was a robbery, I think it could have gone either way.

Dirrell was a class act after the fight, Froch did what every puncher did after the fight and blamed his erratic style on his opponent's running.

Clearly the commentators, the judges and the other ringside reporters judging all scored it a very very close fight.

Opinions on here tend to be biased a bit and I think people have overreacted a bit on the robbery.

If Dirrell would have won it would have been totally fair though as well. Close fight.

At last someone that talks sense, I did not enjoy the fight and thought that scoring it would be extremely difficult. Personally I didn't have Carl winning (I had it 114-114) but I'm not surprised it went the way it did as he was the defending champion.

P.s And I am a Froch fan!

[killersheep]

What rounds did you score for Froch?

I didn't score it on a round by round but I never felt any rounds were really decisive.

I think there is a lot of Froch hate on the boards and a lot of attention on his ugly fighting style and looking awkward against fast, slick opponents.

He certainly DID look awkward and missed wildly at time but at the same time Froch made the fight. He was constantly coming forward and throwing punches, and Dirrell mostly dodged and held on. He only came back with anything later in the fight, the championship rounds.

Let me ask you this, if one fighter comes forward for a whole round, throws punches and misses, but the other fighter doesn't come forward at all, and just dodged, who wins the round?

That is the question really, yes Dirrell made Froch look bad at times but he didn't do anything offensively himself in most of the rounds.

In such cases I guess two of the judges went for the fighter who was at least pressing the action and throwing punches.

I don't think it was a robbery, I think it could have gone either way.

Dirrell was a class act after the fight, Froch did what every puncher did after the fight and blamed his erratic style on his opponent's running.

Clearly the commentators, the judges and the other ringside reporters judging all scored it a very very close fight.

Opinions on here tend to be biased a bit and I think people have overreacted a bit on the robbery.

If Dirrell would have won it would have been totally fair though as well. Close fight.

At last someone that talks sense, I did not enjoy the fight and thought that scoring it would be extremely difficult. Personally I didn't have Carl winning (I had it 114-114) but I'm not surprised it went the way it did as he was the defending champion.

P.s And I am a Froch fan!

Then you did have Froch winning 114-113 or did you have an even round? Don't forget the point deduction

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

I see noway Froch was winnin this fight.

[Kev]

I didn't score it on a round by round but I never felt any rounds were really decisive.

I think there is a lot of Froch hate on the boards and a lot of attention on his ugly fighting style and looking awkward against fast, slick opponents.

He certainly DID look awkward and missed wildly at time but at the same time Froch made the fight. He was constantly coming forward and throwing punches, and Dirrell mostly dodged and held on. He only came back with anything later in the fight, the championship rounds.

Let me ask you this, if one fighter comes forward for a whole round, throws punches and misses, but the other fighter doesn't come forward at all, and just dodged, who wins the round?

That is the question really, yes Dirrell made Froch look bad at times but he didn't do anything offensively himself in most of the rounds.

In such cases I guess two of the judges went for the fighter who was at least pressing the action and throwing punches.

I don't think it was a robbery, I think it could have gone either way.

Dirrell was a class act after the fight, Froch did what every puncher did after the fight and blamed his erratic style on his opponent's running.

Clearly the commentators, the judges and the other ringside reporters judging all scored it a very very close fight.

Opinions on here tend to be biased a bit and I think people have overreacted a bit on the robbery.

If Dirrell would have won it would have been totally fair though as well. Close fight.

At last someone that talks sense, I did not enjoy the fight and thought that scoring it would be extremely difficult. Personally I didn't have Carl winning (I had it 114-114) but I'm not surprised it went the way it did as he was the defending champion.

P.s And I am a Froch fan!

Then you did have Froch winning 114-113 or did you have an even round? Don't forget the point deduction

How did you see it Killersheep?

On reflection I don't think either deserved to win, Froch looked sloppy, missed wildly and used rough house tactics, but constantly pressed the fight and was the aggressor throughout.

Dirrell made Froch looked slow and ungainly and dodged a lot of the punches thrown, but did very little offensively, backpeddled virtually the entire fight and held an awful lot.

On the plus sides.

Froch once again showed a real will to win and a hunger. He kept coming forward, wanting to make a fight of it.

Dirrell showed excellent movement, sharp quick counterpunching and a great defence.


Ultimately its always been said you need to wrest the belt off the champion and in no way did Dirrell do that, he did a great job of surviving and looked extremely comfortable in fact, but he didn't comeback with much except in a couple of rounds where he clearly looked the sharper.

I think Dirrell could have won if he would have engaged more, although then I guess he would fighting Carl's fight giving him better chances too.

I'm just pumped for Froch Arthur, I believe that is next?

That will be a war. I think Abraham does most things better than Carl, but Abraham isn't as fast or elusive as Jermain and Andre so Froch will be able to get his punches off too. Great matchup.

[killersheep]

At last someone that talks sense, I did not enjoy the fight and thought that scoring it would be extremely difficult. Personally I didn't have Carl winning (I had it 114-114) but I'm not surprised it went the way it did as he was the defending champion.

P.s And I am a Froch fan!

Then you did have Froch winning 114-113 or did you have an even round? Don't forget the point deduction

How did you see it Killersheep?

On reflection I don't think either deserved to win, Froch looked sloppy, missed wildly and used rough house tactics, but constantly pressed the fight and was the aggressor throughout.

Dirrell made Froch looked slow and ungainly and dodged a lot of the punches thrown, but did very little offensively, backpeddled virtually the entire fight and held an awful lot.

On the plus sides.

Froch once again showed a real will to win and a hunger. He kept coming forward, wanting to make a fight of it.

Dirrell showed excellent movement, sharp quick counterpunching and a great defence.


Ultimately its always been said you need to wrest the belt off the champion and in no way did Dirrell do that, he did a great job of surviving and looked extremely comfortable in fact, but he didn't comeback with much except in a couple of rounds where he clearly looked the sharper.

I think Dirrell could have won if he would have engaged more, although then I guess he would fighting Carl's fight giving him better chances too.

I'm just pumped for Froch Arthur, I believe that is next?

That will be a war. I think Abraham does most things better than Carl, but Abraham isn't as fast or elusive as Jermain and Andre so Froch will be able to get his punches off too. Great matchup.

I had it 6-5 Dirrell, I lost my stream in the 3rd so I couldn't assess that round, damn computer lost connection. I absolutely think that Dirrell had tons of opportunities to land those amazing combos and didn't take them enough. Froch never looked in control except for a few moments in that fight. I agree that neither fighter did look that convincing, I don't think this was a robbery.

[Diane]

At last someone that talks sense, I did not enjoy the fight and thought that scoring it would be extremely difficult. Personally I didn't have Carl winning (I had it 114-114) but I'm not surprised it went the way it did as he was the defending champion.

P.s And I am a Froch fan!

Then you did have Froch winning 114-113 or did you have an even round? Don't forget the point deduction

How did you see it Killersheep?

On reflection I don't think either deserved to win, Froch looked sloppy, missed wildly and used rough house tactics, but constantly pressed the fight and was the aggressor throughout.

Dirrell made Froch looked slow and ungainly and dodged a lot of the punches thrown, but did very little offensively, backpeddled virtually the entire fight and held an awful lot.

On the plus sides.

Froch once again showed a real will to win and a hunger. He kept coming forward, wanting to make a fight of it.

Dirrell showed excellent movement, sharp quick counterpunching and a great defence.


Ultimately its always been said you need to wrest the belt off the champion and in no way did Dirrell do that, he did a great job of surviving and looked extremely comfortable in fact, but he didn't comeback with much except in a couple of rounds where he clearly looked the sharper.

I think Dirrell could have won if he would have engaged more, although then I guess he would fighting Carl's fight giving him better chances too.

I'm just pumped for Froch Arthur, I believe that is next?

That will be a war. I think Abraham does most things better than Carl, but Abraham isn't as fast or elusive as Jermain and Andre so Froch will be able to get his punches off too. Great matchup.

Nope, Froch has to fight Kessler next.

[CFH]

Then you did have Froch winning 114-113 or did you have an even round? Don't forget the point deduction

How did you see it Killersheep?

On reflection I don't think either deserved to win, Froch looked sloppy, missed wildly and used rough house tactics, but constantly pressed the fight and was the aggressor throughout.

Dirrell made Froch looked slow and ungainly and dodged a lot of the punches thrown, but did very little offensively, backpeddled virtually the entire fight and held an awful lot.

On the plus sides.

Froch once again showed a real will to win and a hunger. He kept coming forward, wanting to make a fight of it.

Dirrell showed excellent movement, sharp quick counterpunching and a great defence.


Ultimately its always been said you need to wrest the belt off the champion and in no way did Dirrell do that, he did a great job of surviving and looked extremely comfortable in fact, but he didn't comeback with much except in a couple of rounds where he clearly looked the sharper.

I think Dirrell could have won if he would have engaged more, although then I guess he would fighting Carl's fight giving him better chances too.

I'm just pumped for Froch Arthur, I believe that is next?

That will be a war. I think Abraham does most things better than Carl, but Abraham isn't as fast or elusive as Jermain and Andre so Froch will be able to get his punches off too. Great matchup.

Nope, Froch has to fight Kessler next.

Regardless of who wins b/t Kessler and Ward?

[Diane]

How did you see it Killersheep?

On reflection I don't think either deserved to win, Froch looked sloppy, missed wildly and used rough house tactics, but constantly pressed the fight and was the aggressor throughout.

Dirrell made Froch looked slow and ungainly and dodged a lot of the punches thrown, but did very little offensively, backpeddled virtually the entire fight and held an awful lot.

On the plus sides.

Froch once again showed a real will to win and a hunger. He kept coming forward, wanting to make a fight of it.

Dirrell showed excellent movement, sharp quick counterpunching and a great defence.


Ultimately its always been said you need to wrest the belt off the champion and in no way did Dirrell do that, he did a great job of surviving and looked extremely comfortable in fact, but he didn't comeback with much except in a couple of rounds where he clearly looked the sharper.

I think Dirrell could have won if he would have engaged more, although then I guess he would fighting Carl's fight giving him better chances too.

I'm just pumped for Froch Arthur, I believe that is next?

That will be a war. I think Abraham does most things better than Carl, but Abraham isn't as fast or elusive as Jermain and Andre so Froch will be able to get his punches off too. Great matchup.

Nope, Froch has to fight Kessler next.

Regardless of who wins b/t Kessler and Ward?

Yep, it doesn't matter who wins. All the matches for the first three rounds have already been set. Win or lose it doesn't matter. The only thing that will change it, is if someone leaves the tournament, and with what I just posted about Taylor in another thread, it's very possible that he could be out.

In case you didn't read it. I'll post it again.


Dan Rafael
(11:02 PM)

Hey guys, I'm back. That was Lou DiBella on the phone from Germany.

Lou said Jermain had a severe concussion and is in the hospital for precautionary reasons. He has had short term memory loss. Lou said he'll stay in the hospital for several days as a precaution. No decision has been made about his future in the tournament.

[CFH]

Nope, Froch has to fight Kessler next.

Regardless of who wins b/t Kessler and Ward?

Yep, it doesn't matter who wins. All the matches for the first three rounds have already been set. Win or lose it doesn't matter. The only thing that will change it, is if someone leaves the tournament, and with what I just posted about Taylor in another thread, it's very possible that he could be out.

In case you didn't read it. I'll post it again.


Dan Rafael
(11:02 PM)

Hey guys, I'm back. That was Lou DiBella on the phone from Germany.

Lou said Jermain had a severe concussion and is in the hospital for precautionary reasons. He has had short term memory loss. Lou said he'll stay in the hospital for several days as a precaution. No decision has been made about his future in the tournament.

I'd much rather see Allan Green get knocked out than Jermaine Taylor, so I won't complain if he draws in. Shame to see Taylor take the brutal KO's he's been taking though, he should just walk away.

[Kev]

Then you did have Froch winning 114-113 or did you have an even round? Don't forget the point deduction

How did you see it Killersheep?

On reflection I don't think either deserved to win, Froch looked sloppy, missed wildly and used rough house tactics, but constantly pressed the fight and was the aggressor throughout.

Dirrell made Froch looked slow and ungainly and dodged a lot of the punches thrown, but did very little offensively, backpeddled virtually the entire fight and held an awful lot.

On the plus sides.

Froch once again showed a real will to win and a hunger. He kept coming forward, wanting to make a fight of it.

Dirrell showed excellent movement, sharp quick counterpunching and a great defence.


Ultimately its always been said you need to wrest the belt off the champion and in no way did Dirrell do that, he did a great job of surviving and looked extremely comfortable in fact, but he didn't comeback with much except in a couple of rounds where he clearly looked the sharper.

I think Dirrell could have won if he would have engaged more, although then I guess he would fighting Carl's fight giving him better chances too.

I'm just pumped for Froch Arthur, I believe that is next?

That will be a war. I think Abraham does most things better than Carl, but Abraham isn't as fast or elusive as Jermain and Andre so Froch will be able to get his punches off too. Great matchup.

Nope, Froch has to fight Kessler next.

Hmm will be a tough ask for Froch. Kessler has perfect fundamentals, a strong jab and is very tough and durable.

It's really hard to see how Froch wins that imo barring a shock ko, but in truth its more likely Froch who gets beaten up.

I guess its possible the slower pace will suit him though. But Froch is simply to 'incorrect' in his fighting style to keep beating top fighters.

It's not like he has devastating Tyson power to bail him out either, I think Abraham hits harder, and Kessler just as hard.

Tough fight for Froch, but in fairness to him no fighter who has engaged with him has beat him, Dirrell showed you can make him miss repeatedly and keep out of trouble if you're fast and run, but he didn't put any pressure on Froch, so I'm sure Froch will be his usual bullish self coming into the fight.