Would the Jermain Taylor that beat Hopkins have lost last night?

[sumkalambay]

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

[rjj tszyu]

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

[sumkalambay]

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

wow... abraham has become so fucking overrated. even a prime chris eubank would make a monkey out of abraham. can you imagine how many uppercuts eubank would land on abraham?

[rjj tszyu]

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

wow... abraham has become so fucking overrated. even a prime chris eubank would make a monkey out of abraham. can you imagine how many uppercuts eubank would land on abraham?

First of all Eubank in his prime was another class operator, but AA has an awkward style that seems hard to work out and he has carried all his power up with him, all in all making him a very dangerous fighter!

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

I thought taylor fought well last night. I had it a very close fight until taylor got ko'd.

[rjj tszyu]

I thought taylor fought well last night. I had it a very close fight until taylor got ko'd.

Personally I thought it was close until AA landed first timeand hurt Taylor and had him dancing all over the ring. From then on (8th I think) it was downhill.

[JonesJrMayweather]

The taylor that fought hopkins was hungrier, undefeated, and more motivated. He would have beaten AA.

The taylor that fought AA, only won 1 out of 4, and kayoed twice. He got what should have been expected.

[El Kabong]

The taylor that fought hopkins was hungrier, undefeated, and more motivated. He would have beaten AA.

The taylor that fought AA, only won 1 out of 4, and kayoed twice. He got what should have been expected.

Sorry to disagree but JT got rocked by Hopkins late in both of those fights, Abraham has better power than Hopkins.

[Majesty]

The taylor that fought hopkins was hungrier, undefeated, and more motivated. He would have beaten AA.

The taylor that fought AA, only won 1 out of 4, and kayoed twice. He got what should have been expected.

The Taylor that fought Hopkins still almost got knocked out in the 12th round. Not so sure it would have been a different result. 12th round KO for Abraham.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

No way the Taylor of old would have lost to Abraham! Taylor lost everything when he got rid of Pat Burns his old trainer. Burns pushed him and kept him disciplined. Nelson just treats him like any mother would in the ring and that is exactly what I fighter doesnt need. It was not a couple of flukes when he beat hop, hejust had a good trainer that got in his butt and pushed him, nowa days Taylor has horrible stanima, and absolutly ZERO heart! I honestly hope he doesnt show his face in boxing after this is over. It all comes down to one bone head descsion he made to get rid of the coach that helped him dethrone the man who held them for years. I still cant figure what was going through his mind when he did that, immaturity I suppose!

[rjj tszyu]

No way the Taylor of old would have lost to Abraham! Taylor lost everything when he got rid of Pat Burns his old trainer. Burns pushed him and kept him disciplined. Nelson just treats him like any mother would in the ring and that is exactly what I fighter doesnt need. It was not a couple of flukes when he beat hop, hejust had a good trainer that got in his butt and pushed him, nowa days Taylor has horrible stanima, and absolutly ZERO heart! I honestly hope he doesnt show his face in boxing after this is over. It all comes down to one bone head descsion he made to get rid of the coach that helped him dethrone the man who held them for years. I still cant figure what was going through his mind when he did that, immaturity I suppose!

Maybe but more likely Lou Dibella. Promoters always interfere where they shouldn't!

[sumkalambay]

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

wow... abraham has become so fucking overrated. even a prime chris eubank would make a monkey out of abraham. can you imagine how many uppercuts eubank would land on abraham?

First of all Eubank in his prime was another class operator, but AA has an awkward style that seems hard to work out and he has carried all his power up with him, all in all making him a very dangerous fighter!

no... he'd be a fucking sitting duck for a smooth counterpuncher like eubank. jermain taylor was so terrified of getting hit, he abandoned counterpunching altogether.

eubank would be landing powershots from all angles and abraham's face would be a disgusting mess at the end of the fight.

[rjj tszyu]

wow... abraham has become so fucking overrated. even a prime chris eubank would make a monkey out of abraham. can you imagine how many uppercuts eubank would land on abraham?

First of all Eubank in his prime was another class operator, but AA has an awkward style that seems hard to work out and he has carried all his power up with him, all in all making him a very dangerous fighter!

no... he'd be a fucking sitting duck for a smooth counterpuncher like eubank. jermain taylor was so terrified of getting hit, he abandoned counterpunching altogether.

eubank would be landing powershots from all angles and abraham's face would be a disgusting mess at the end of the fight.

No I disagree. I think it would be a close fight. Not much to guage Eubank on really he fought the best Europe had to offer and Malinga but never ventured into the likes of Roy Jones, Julian Jackson, James Toney, Mike McCallum, Bernard Hopkins and G-Man so at world class Eubanks resume falls a bit short. With the Super six at least we'll see AA in with other class guys which Taylor was don't forget. He did beat Hopkins twice and no matter what excuses are made Hopkins never figured Taylor out properly in 24 rounds fighting!

Now I don't think for one minute "that" JT was in the ring last night, more a shadow of an old good fighter, but AA showed me some brilliant points, he had his guard up and he has something in it that Winky Wright has in his. He covers his head and the points of his elbows cover where someone would go for the body so they end up head hunting and then he seems to walk them down and land accurate big bombs. Someone who is accurate is always hard to counter the same as someone who wings from distance, kind of like what Froch was doing last night.

[killersheep]

Taylor's wins over Hopkins were more because Hopkins waited until the last 4 rounds to fight, moreso than Taylor being the better fighter.

[Spicoli]

Taylor's wins over Hopkins were more because Hopkins waited until the last 4 rounds to fight, moreso than Taylor being the better fighter.

Agree.Have always thought Taylor was a TKO sitting on the doorstep for Hopkins late in the 1st fight.If any Hopkins fight made me horse...it was that one.His arrogance and coasting on greatness bit him on the azz.