Dirrell's comparison to a young Roy jones

[TheMacMagician]

RJJ i don't think so. Maybe if you take half of Jones Junior for the flash accurate punches and movement and blend it with a half of Junior Witter for the negativity and switch hitting bull crap. Really, i'm a guy who can like Dirrell a lot, i just want to see him take it to his opponent like he did to Froch in 10 and 11. Because when he did, he looked excellent.

[Hunter]

The announcers/people said Dirrell's speed is comparable to Roy Jones. They didnt say Dirrell as a fighter is comparable to Roy Jones. At least that is what I heard. Dirrell is pretty fast and may be close to Roy in speed, but Roy had more power, better technique, better boxing mind,better combination puncher etc.....Roy was head and shoulder a better fighter than Andre but if you just look at speed Andre is pretty fast......

[Taeth]

They have very similar speed and athletic ability, but Roy JOnes had so much more composure in the ring, and I think thats because he stepped up the competition a lot earlier in his career. The biggest problem I have with all these prospects coming up is that they don't get their defining fight until their in the second half of their twenties.

Look how young Leonard fought for the title against Benitez, How young Floyd was when he beat G. Hernandez or even Corales. Or ROy Jones Jr when he fought James Toney, that was when he was like 24-25, and he already was dominating one of the best fighters in the world. I think James Toney would win this tournament, and that Roy wouldn't have too many problems with any of these guys except maybe Ward because he sort of reminds me of Montell Griffin stylewise.

I also guarantee Roy would have complained about what Froch did as well, Froch was being a cheap bastard in there and that was the only time he was effective was when he was hitting DIrrell illegally(well he did land a few jabs 2 big punches, but that was it).

In terms of power I think Dirrell has a lot of power, its just he doesn't sit down on his punches the way he should. He is too nervous and doesn't always get the leverage to go along with his body's follow through. That being said I still think Roy was one of the hardest punches to ever grace 160/168, and I think that gave him huge advantages because he was able to earn respect from his opponents very quickly. One other thing I notice is that Dirrell doesn't counter like Roy, Roy Jones would counter right as the other guy was punching, and he would make them feel like if they ever threw punches they would get hit hard, Dirrell has the speed, but he doesn't make opponents pay the way they should for throwing punches.

[Fenster]

They have very similar speed and athletic ability, but Roy JOnes had so much more composure in the ring, and I think thats because he stepped up the competition a lot earlier in his career. The biggest problem I have with all these prospects coming up is that they don't get their defining fight until their in the second half of their twenties.

Look how young Leonard fought for the title against Benitez, How young Floyd was when he beat G. Hernandez or even Corales. Or ROy Jones Jr when he fought James Toney, that was when he was like 24-25, and he already was dominating one of the best fighters in the world. I think James Toney would win this tournament, and that Roy wouldn't have too many problems with any of these guys except maybe Ward because he sort of reminds me of Montell Griffin stylewise.

I also guarantee Roy would have complained about what Froch did as well, Froch was being a cheap bastard in there and that was the only time he was effective was when he was hitting DIrrell illegally(well he did land a few jabs 2 big punches, but that was it).

In terms of power I think Dirrell has a lot of power, its just he doesn't sit down on his punches the way he should. He is too nervous and doesn't always get the leverage to go along with his body's follow through. That being said I still think Roy was one of the hardest punches to ever grace 160/168, and I think that gave him huge advantages because he was able to earn respect from his opponents very quickly. One other thing I notice is that Dirrell doesn't counter like Roy, Roy Jones would counter right as the other guy was punching, and he would make them feel like if they ever threw punches they would get hit hard, Dirrell has the speed, but he doesn't make opponents pay the way they should for throwing punches.

Roy wouldn't have needed to complain Froch would have been sparked out inside 6 minutes.

[BIG H]

They have very similar speed and athletic ability, but Roy JOnes had so much more composure in the ring, and I think thats because he stepped up the competition a lot earlier in his career. The biggest problem I have with all these prospects coming up is that they don't get their defining fight until their in the second half of their twenties.

Look how young Leonard fought for the title against Benitez, How young Floyd was when he beat G. Hernandez or even Corales. Or ROy Jones Jr when he fought James Toney, that was when he was like 24-25, and he already was dominating one of the best fighters in the world. I think James Toney would win this tournament, and that Roy wouldn't have too many problems with any of these guys except maybe Ward because he sort of reminds me of Montell Griffin stylewise.

I also guarantee Roy would have complained about what Froch did as well, Froch was being a cheap bastard in there and that was the only time he was effective was when he was hitting DIrrell illegally(well he did land a few jabs 2 big punches, but that was it).

In terms of power I think Dirrell has a lot of power, its just he doesn't sit down on his punches the way he should. He is too nervous and doesn't always get the leverage to go along with his body's follow through. That being said I still think Roy was one of the hardest punches to ever grace 160/168, and I think that gave him huge advantages because he was able to earn respect from his opponents very quickly. One other thing I notice is that Dirrell doesn't counter like Roy, Roy Jones would counter right as the other guy was punching, and he would make them feel like if they ever threw punches they would get hit hard, Dirrell has the speed, but he doesn't make opponents pay the way they should for throwing punches.

Roy wouldn't have needed to complain Froch would have been sparked out inside 6 minutes.

Nah - he would've lasted longer than Clinton imo

[Fenster]

They have very similar speed and athletic ability, but Roy JOnes had so much more composure in the ring, and I think thats because he stepped up the competition a lot earlier in his career. The biggest problem I have with all these prospects coming up is that they don't get their defining fight until their in the second half of their twenties.

Look how young Leonard fought for the title against Benitez, How young Floyd was when he beat G. Hernandez or even Corales. Or ROy Jones Jr when he fought James Toney, that was when he was like 24-25, and he already was dominating one of the best fighters in the world. I think James Toney would win this tournament, and that Roy wouldn't have too many problems with any of these guys except maybe Ward because he sort of reminds me of Montell Griffin stylewise.

I also guarantee Roy would have complained about what Froch did as well, Froch was being a cheap bastard in there and that was the only time he was effective was when he was hitting DIrrell illegally(well he did land a few jabs 2 big punches, but that was it).

In terms of power I think Dirrell has a lot of power, its just he doesn't sit down on his punches the way he should. He is too nervous and doesn't always get the leverage to go along with his body's follow through. That being said I still think Roy was one of the hardest punches to ever grace 160/168, and I think that gave him huge advantages because he was able to earn respect from his opponents very quickly. One other thing I notice is that Dirrell doesn't counter like Roy, Roy Jones would counter right as the other guy was punching, and he would make them feel like if they ever threw punches they would get hit hard, Dirrell has the speed, but he doesn't make opponents pay the way they should for throwing punches.

Roy wouldn't have needed to complain Froch would have been sparked out inside 6 minutes.

Nah - he would've lasted longer than Clinton imo

25 year-old supermiddle Roy?

Taylor had Froch over in the third round. Roy would have surely destroyed someone as slow and open as Froch. Quick.

[blegit]

I think people are blending two things. Separate overall skill and athleticism. If you do that you will see that Dirrell is very similar athletically to RJJ. Look at Dirrell's speed, ability to dodge punches, and and agility. A young RJJ was a much better fighter because he had one punch knockout power, willingness to trade, heart of a champion, better timing, and utmost confidence. Probably even a few more things that I didn't mention also but athletically Dirrell is a phenom. He just doesn't know it yet. Even Allan Green, who never credits anyone but himself, was saying that Dirrell's talent is the best he just doesn't know how to use it.

[rjj tszyu]

They have very similar speed and athletic ability, but Roy JOnes had so much more composure in the ring, and I think thats because he stepped up the competition a lot earlier in his career. The biggest problem I have with all these prospects coming up is that they don't get their defining fight until their in the second half of their twenties.

Look how young Leonard fought for the title against Benitez, How young Floyd was when he beat G. Hernandez or even Corales. Or ROy Jones Jr when he fought James Toney, that was when he was like 24-25, and he already was dominating one of the best fighters in the world. I think James Toney would win this tournament, and that Roy wouldn't have too many problems with any of these guys except maybe Ward because he sort of reminds me of Montell Griffin stylewise.

I also guarantee Roy would have complained about what Froch did as well, Froch was being a cheap bastard in there and that was the only time he was effective was when he was hitting DIrrell illegally(well he did land a few jabs 2 big punches, but that was it).

In terms of power I think Dirrell has a lot of power, its just he doesn't sit down on his punches the way he should. He is too nervous and doesn't always get the leverage to go along with his body's follow through. That being said I still think Roy was one of the hardest punches to ever grace 160/168, and I think that gave him huge advantages because he was able to earn respect from his opponents very quickly. One other thing I notice is that Dirrell doesn't counter like Roy, Roy Jones would counter right as the other guy was punching, and he would make them feel like if they ever threw punches they would get hit hard, Dirrell has the speed, but he doesn't make opponents pay the way they should for throwing punches.

I've thought that from what I've seen of Ward actually, he does have that look of Griffin but look what Roy did to him in the second fight because he was focused. He hurt him badly every time he hit him. I'd give my right arm to see that Roy back, especially if he fights Hopkins again.