the fight will take place sometime in september and be telivised on showtime according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
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the fight will take place sometime in september and be telivised on showtime according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
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until he gets hit.....he has never been hit by a true banger.....Rahman doesn't count....Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by bigragu
true, but..............
imo, i think toney is still a pretty slick hw and will be able to out box sam peter but that is contingent upon toney getting in decent shape
but again thats a big IF
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We all know James is higly talented and gets by without much effort since he is so gifted...As he gets older he is gonna have to put more work into his conditioning or he is gonna be in serious trouble when he gets in there with a true power puncher he is gonna have to up his workrate and outbox these guys instead of lying on the ropes and getting tooled on
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What in the hell are you talking about, Rahman doesn't count... THat's all Rahman can do is punch...and he hit Toney with some big right hands... Peter basically sucks, imo... He is a sloth, Toney would make him look absolutely silly... I think if Wlad fought him again he could KO him fairly quickly, and I think that was a piss poor performance by Wlad in the first fight, people give him major props for that win... I see it as him almost being KOed by a total amatuer who had nowhere near the same physical tools, and isn't even on the same planet in terms of skill... I mean really, Wlad handled him just fine except for the 4 times Peter landed a punch on him, Toney can handle punches just fine, so he would beat him easier, imo, because he wouldn't have the mental baggage that Wlad did in that fight... I mean that may as well have been Wlads pro debut all over again he was just there to shake off his nerves and get comfortable.Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by jtrock
well said..............
i agree 100%
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WOW!!!! We finally agree on somethingOriginally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by jtrock
that and meldrick taylor getting screwed (assuming youre talking about jcc)
that in my opinion was the biggest robbery of all time
and richard steele KNEW that round was going to end
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I'll say it again if that fight ruined Taylor and he wasnt going to be the same, then he should have at least had a chance to finish the last few seconds and claim his much deserved victory...What a heart breaking robbery...The man earned it and went through hell and to have it ripped away from him is unexcusable IMO
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he's slick I'll give you that....but once Peter drops one of those monster Hambones upside his head/body/arms....JFAT is going to be in serious trouble....Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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He wasn't fit to continue. He was clearly ou of it and it isn't worth it to risk those last seconds.Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
there was like 2 SECONDS left (or something like that)
and i may be wrong but was jcc's promoter don king back then? cuz i remember in that period of boxing you could have A LOT of stuff go your way if he was promoting you.
not so much anymore though
WHAT?!?! Hell yeah, this is a fight that I wanna see. I'm sorry guys but Peter is gonna KO Toney. Yeah, Toney is great blocking and slipping punches with his shoulders, but when you have arguably the hardest hitter P4P hitting you on your shoulders, Toney will wear down and get caught.
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exactly...risking death for that is not worth it.....Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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