Worst Boxing Robberies. Fact.

[Fenster]

Listing Fights that happened in America against fighters who clearly are American or fight the majority of their fights in America are clearly Farcial.

People are pissed about the involvement of Europe's and UK's ref's in fights in addition to the decisions

Benn-McClellan

Hatton-Tzyu

Dirrell-Froch

Abraham-Miranda

Its clear what your trying to establish, but quite empty in theory

Well name the dodgy decisions then? That's all i'm trying to get at. If decisions in Europe are so stunningly biased we should ALL know more than the odd fucking Holyfield-Valuev fight.

As for Europe's refs

American ref Randy Neumann did Abraham-Miranda and Panamanian ref Hector Afu did Dirrell-Froch.

Dave Parris- Leeds, Yorkshire, England (Hatton-Tszyu)

Yes that classes him as European. Like Alfred Asaro who reffed Benn-McClellan is from Belgium/France which also classes him as European - hence why it was unnecessary to mention them.

People are pissed about the involvement of Europe's and UK's ref's in fights

Understand?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Well name the dodgy decisions then? That's all i'm trying to get at. If decisions in Europe are so stunningly biased we should ALL know more than the odd fucking Holyfield-Valuev fight.

As for Europe's refs

American ref Randy Neumann did Abraham-Miranda and Panamanian ref Hector Afu did Dirrell-Froch.

Dave Parris- Leeds, Yorkshire, England (Hatton-Tszyu)

Yes that classes him as European. Like Alfred Asaro who reffed Benn-McClellan is from Belgium/France which also classes him as European - hence why it was unnecessary to mention them.

People are pissed about the involvement of Europe's and UK's ref's in fights

Understand?

yea i understand that you're trying to just insinuate that the US is the capital of bad judging and bad ref's, when it's spread pretty evenly world wide, if you believe that Holyfield/Valuev is the only REAL bad call then you need to stop sucking on the bong buddy, it's clear Europe has had very bad calls, but so has every other fucking corner of the planet, it's the point i tried to make earlier, it's a huge problem in the SPORT itself, not any single given country or area

[Fenster]

Dave Parris- Leeds, Yorkshire, England (Hatton-Tszyu)

Yes that classes him as European. Like Alfred Asaro who reffed Benn-McClellan is from Belgium/France which also classes him as European - hence why it was unnecessary to mention them.

People are pissed about the involvement of Europe's and UK's ref's in fights

Understand?

yea i understand that you're trying to just insinuate that the US is the capital of bad judging and bad ref's, when it's spread pretty evenly world wide, if you believe that Holyfield/Valuev is the only REAL bad call then you need to stop sucking on the bong buddy, it's clear Europe has had very bad calls, but so has every other fucking corner of the planet, it's the point i tried to make earlier, it's a huge problem in the SPORT itself, not any single given country or area

Fucks sake

I too believe that bad refs and bad judging goes on EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm trying to find out if there's any actual EVIDENCE to back up peoples claims that Germany/Europe is the robbery capital of boxing.

WE should be able to name loads of fights. But so far no-one can name fuck all apart from Holyfield-Valuev and disputed Froch-Dirrell decision.

Someone here that knows about boxing history must be able to help me out?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Yes that classes him as European. Like Alfred Asaro who reffed Benn-McClellan is from Belgium/France which also classes him as European - hence why it was unnecessary to mention them.



Understand?

yea i understand that you're trying to just insinuate that the US is the capital of bad judging and bad ref's, when it's spread pretty evenly world wide, if you believe that Holyfield/Valuev is the only REAL bad call then you need to stop sucking on the bong buddy, it's clear Europe has had very bad calls, but so has every other fucking corner of the planet, it's the point i tried to make earlier, it's a huge problem in the SPORT itself, not any single given country or area

Fucks sake

I too believe that bad refs and bad judging goes on EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm trying to find out if there's any actual EVIDENCE to back up peoples claims that Germany/Europe is the robbery capital of boxing.

WE should be able to name loads of fights. But so far no-one can name fuck all apart from Holyfield-Valuev and disputed Froch-Dirrell decision.

Someone here that knows about boxing history must be able to help me out?

they already mentioned the Whitaker "loss" to Ramirez in France is a pretty big one, Calzaghe/Reid is another one, a lot of sportswriters believed Ruiz beat Valuev the first time around as well, all of which were title fights

[Fenster]

yea i understand that you're trying to just insinuate that the US is the capital of bad judging and bad ref's, when it's spread pretty evenly world wide, if you believe that Holyfield/Valuev is the only REAL bad call then you need to stop sucking on the bong buddy, it's clear Europe has had very bad calls, but so has every other fucking corner of the planet, it's the point i tried to make earlier, it's a huge problem in the SPORT itself, not any single given country or area

Fucks sake

I too believe that bad refs and bad judging goes on EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm trying to find out if there's any actual EVIDENCE to back up peoples claims that Germany/Europe is the robbery capital of boxing.

WE should be able to name loads of fights. But so far no-one can name fuck all apart from Holyfield-Valuev and disputed Froch-Dirrell decision.

Someone here that knows about boxing history must be able to help me out?

they already mentioned the Whitaker "loss" to Ramirez in France is a pretty big one, Calzaghe/Reid is another one

lol

OK, Whitaker-Ramirez, the Mexican got it over the Amercian in France.

That's 3.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Fucks sake

I too believe that bad refs and bad judging goes on EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm trying to find out if there's any actual EVIDENCE to back up peoples claims that Germany/Europe is the robbery capital of boxing.

WE should be able to name loads of fights. But so far no-one can name fuck all apart from Holyfield-Valuev and disputed Froch-Dirrell decision.

Someone here that knows about boxing history must be able to help me out?

they already mentioned the Whitaker "loss" to Ramirez in France is a pretty big one, Calzaghe/Reid is another one

lol

OK, Whitaker-Ramirez, the Mexican got it over the Amercian in France.

That's 3.

that's the same Mexican who was living in France and had quite a following there as well...

[SEANIE]

Martin Camara getting robbed against John david Jackson for the wbo light middle title. Jackson was a mile ahead when Camara clobbered him and all sorts of shennigans led to the bout being declared a 11 round no contest. An absolute fucking robbery.

[johnmaff36]

Yes that classes him as European. Like Alfred Asaro who reffed Benn-McClellan is from Belgium/France which also classes him as European - hence why it was unnecessary to mention them.



Understand?

yea i understand that you're trying to just insinuate that the US is the capital of bad judging and bad ref's, when it's spread pretty evenly world wide, if you believe that Holyfield/Valuev is the only REAL bad call then you need to stop sucking on the bong buddy, it's clear Europe has had very bad calls, but so has every other fucking corner of the planet, it's the point i tried to make earlier, it's a huge problem in the SPORT itself, not any single given country or area

Fucks sake

I too believe that bad refs and bad judging goes on EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm trying to find out if there's any actual EVIDENCE to back up peoples claims that Germany/Europe is the robbery capital of boxing.

WE should be able to name loads of fights. But so far no-one can name fuck all apart from Holyfield-Valuev and disputed Froch-Dirrell decision.

Someone here that knows about boxing history must be able to help me out?

Your right my friend, bad judging is everywhere although some places are more notorious than others. In the states, Nevada has had some pretty dodgy decisions and in Europe, Italy was always known as a place where you needed a knock-out. I remember maybe 10yrs back an englishman won a title in Italy (it may have been robin reid) and the boxing fraternity were really taken aback by this. Not because of the fighter involved but because it was in Italy.