Who wins the super middle tourny?

[ElTerribleMorales]

I say that because he is as slow as molasses, he lacks an effective jab,his hooks are wide and looping, and when he throws them he is open for counters all day long. He just looks plain unnatural in the ring. If he fights outside of Germany agaisnt anyone in this comp besides froch he'll lose.

Okay...
-AA isn't slower than the average super middle,I'm not saying he is fast,but he definitely not as slow as you make him...
-he was very effective with his jab against Taylor...throwing less than Taylor,but connecting more(at least thats what showtime said)and pushing Taylor every time back...not effective ...
-the way he throws his punches is awkward,but till this day nobody figured it out how to counter this...
-you make it sound that he would have lost to Taylor if he had fought him in the US instead of Germany and of course if he wouldn't have knocked him out...again ...



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His jab is crap. One thing Taylor never has figured out how to do is keep his left hand up. Taylor has been done since hopkins, because he left the guy that got him there and hasnt been the same since. He cant push himself and Ozell wont push him. Taylor doesnt have it mentally or endurance wise anymore. I never once said that Taylor would have beat AA in the U.S. Now had this been a younger version of Taylor (Pre Hopkins) He would have beat the holy crap out of AA. Also AA didnt connect on half of what showtime said he did and were clearly biased the whole fight. I pretty much knew though no matter how Taylor performed in the first half he would fade down the stretch and it didnt surprise me. Pretty much anybody that can go 12 rounds will beat Taylor present time. Plain and simple. AA still isnt very good.

well he was good enough to have Pavlik shitting himself everytime a fight against Abraham was mentioned

[BigLuke]

Pavlick blows, and i think his career could very well be over. I think he has more than staff or hand issues or whatever the crap he has. I think he had trouble handling the spotlight and bein on top, and he went down in a hurry. Not everybody can handle bein on top. What im sayin is i think theres more than what meets the eye to his whole situation.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Pavlick blows, and i think his career could very well be over. I think he has more than staff or hand issues or whatever the crap he has. I think he had trouble handling the spotlight and bein on top, and he went down in a hurry. Not everybody can handle bein on top. What im sayin is i think theres more than what meets the eye to his whole situation.

that's now, but Pavlik was already prairie doggin at the thought of having to fight Abraham waaaaaaay before Hopkins beat his ass, and still he's not too bad if he beat Taylor twice, being the first guy to beat him, period