Roy jones jr vs Mike Tyson

[gudnite vienna]

im sure this thread has been done already...

[The Boxer]

I think it was after the Ruiz Fight that this fight was actually being talked about. Granted it wasn't a prime tyson but we all still would have watch it.

[rjj tszyu]

This fight would just not be fair Roy was 154 at the start of his career Tyson was 210-220. That makes him 60+ lbs naturally heavier. I know Ruiz had the same size advantage but he wasn't Mike Tyson.

I am the biggest Roy Jones fan and p4p I think he is top 5 all time but to think he could live with a prime Tyson would be absurd and I don't really think Tyson was as great as some make him out to be, just too big and powerful for Roy!

[LethalChris]

I think Roy Jones' flamboyant and further more articulate style would be too intricate for tysons head strong brutal power. Its Roy Jones all the way for me (assuming were talking about a pound for pound match up here)

[rjj tszyu]

I think Roy Jones' flamboyant and further more articulate style would be too intricate for tysons head strong brutal power. Its Roy Jones all the way for me (assuming were talking about a pound for pound match up here)

You can't really say a p4p match though as both fighters were great at using their natural gifts i.e. Tyson used his brute strength and speed for a big guy well, whereas Jones used his freak athleticism.

If they had fought after the Ruiz fight then Jones may have had a chance,but a prime Tyson would have got to him eventually in his prime I have no doubt.

[Andre]

I think Roy Jones' flamboyant and further more articulate style would be too intricate for tysons head strong brutal power. Its Roy Jones all the way for me (assuming were talking about a pound for pound match up here)

You can't really say a p4p match though as both fighters were great at using their natural gifts i.e. Tyson used his brute strength and speed for a big guy well, whereas Jones used his freak athleticism.

If they had fought after the Ruiz fight then Jones may have had a chance,but a prime Tyson would have got to him eventually in his prime I have no doubt.

Being a fantasy match up; Roy tko in 8.

If the two were magically the same weight somewhere in the middle of where they both naturally fought and both prime I would go with Roy because he was supreme in his confidence in his ability to counter and bend in the wind and never get caught cold full force or comming forwards by anyone.
Tyson got his own way alot and used intimidation backed with brute strength and single mindedness to suit his tight wicked style. Roy would not have been fased by any of it pre fight or on the night. Roy would have frustrated Mike (and thats the key).
He'd be already moving and throwing a counter as Mike started any solid move; catching him then creating other angles so Mike would eventually make even more mistakes going for broke and get caught continually and the fight would be stopped for his own good.

[rjj tszyu]

I think Roy Jones' flamboyant and further more articulate style would be too intricate for tysons head strong brutal power. Its Roy Jones all the way for me (assuming were talking about a pound for pound match up here)

You can't really say a p4p match though as both fighters were great at using their natural gifts i.e. Tyson used his brute strength and speed for a big guy well, whereas Jones used his freak athleticism.

If they had fought after the Ruiz fight then Jones may have had a chance,but a prime Tyson would have got to him eventually in his prime I have no doubt.

Being a fantasy match up; Roy tko in 8.

If the two were magically the same weight somewhere in the middle of where they both naturally fought and both prime I would go with Roy because he was supreme in his confidence in his ability to counter and bend in the wind and never get caught cold full force or comming forwards by anyone.
Tyson got his own way alot and used intimidation backed with brute strength and single mindedness to suit his tight wicked style. Roy would not have been fased by any of it pre fight or on the night. Roy would have frustrated Mike (and thats the key).
He'd be already moving and throwing a counter as Mike started any solid move; catching him then creating other angles so Mike would eventually make even more mistakes going for broke and get caught continually and the fight would be stopped for his own good.

Well I remember after Griffin II there was a lot of talk of Roy (IMO in his prime) taking on Buster Douglas. This is when his Dad got back in contact with Roy because he was fearing for his sons safety and no-one knows Roy as well as Snr and obviously he thought that Heavies were too big for him.

Well whatever happened when they fought, I believe Tyson was better than Douglas.

If they could as you say magically become the same size then yes Roy would win, For me in his prime Roy was p4p not just the best fighter in the world but the hardest puncher and the fastest in hand and reflex's. But to be honest and this may be me being something of a Roy fanboy if everyone could be made the same size magically Roy would beat anyone in history with "perhaps" the exception of SRR but if I were to put money on that I would go for Roy!

[BritBox]

A prime Tyson, natural heavier with more natural power would've had RJJ. I don't think you can compare due to the massive weight difference between the two.

In Tysons prime you might have been able to be more accurate and dance round him, but one punch with either hand and you were gone. RJJ wouldn't have stood a chance.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I agree prime tyson would have been too much. Roy may have danced around but he always had a bad habit of staying too close too long believing in his ability. Even Ruiz caught him in that first round and stunned him, had that been a real HW hitter roy would have gone down.

Tyson's not an all time great in terms of career, but he's definitely up there in terms of hand power, agility, and quickness. Couple that with the fact that Tyson is like a shark when he smells blood. He would have known Roy was smaller and this would have given him extra motivation.

Its Ironic that Id pick prime tyson over roy, but I'd take Roy over Ali.

[rjj tszyu]

I agree prime tyson would have been too much. Roy may have danced around but he always had a bad habit of staying too close too long believing in his ability. Even Ruiz caught him in that first round and stunned him, had that been a real HW hitter roy would have gone down.

Tyson's not an all time great in terms of career, but he's definitely up there in terms of hand power, agility, and quickness. Couple that with the fact that Tyson is like a shark when he smells blood. He would have known Roy was smaller and this would have given him extra motivation.

Its Ironic that Id pick prime tyson over roy, but I'd take Roy over Ali.

Roy over Ali?? No way. Roy would probably beat him now.

Ali would get Roy quick IMO. Roy's biggest advantage is speed but although he is not as fast as Roy, Ali was far bigger and had freak speed in hand, feet and reflex and the outcome would be a KO for Ali.

Can't believe I am going against Roy so much but I'm trying to remain sensible. Any of the ATG HW's would be too much for Roy Jones who is basically a blown up MW with freakish power, Speed and skill. But HW's are just too much for even the likes of Roy. I mean look at his fight with Ruiz, yes he was dominant but that wasn't the dominant fighter that destroyed everyone and everything at LHW.

Roys natural size is similar to SRR (who is the only man I think is def better than Roy p4p) and he too would have no chance with any ATG big man!