Yea I wouldn't do the simple 2x4 route. And look at as much support and as many screws as you can get in. I've hung mine repeatedly from the ceiling joists (sp?) and keep knocking that thing off. It pulls the wood out in chunks. Looks badass and all when it happens haha, but mainly it isn't a strong hold. I suppose I could have gotten deeper setting screws but I don't actually use it much.


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