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    Quote Originally Posted by atgatt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    It think it could be great to build contact reflexes if you could have your forearm arm touching it and go off the contact reaction more than the visual one.
    Andre, for what it's worth, I tried your suggestion today and found the visual is much better, at least for me. It was just too fast to even deflect the RBT arm with my arm that was touching it before it hit me.

    I also tried a new style of punching today against it that made me get hit less but it is a shoulder killer. Rather than just punching fast to get in out quick, I also worked hard at bringing my punch hand back to the guard position as fast as possible once it made the hit. It is obviously great for the least percentage of time your guard is open, but it also is like a fast reload to be ready to punch again with the same arm. The only problem like I said, it really gets to my shoulders and I will have to build up those muscles involved with that quick return movement, but I could see it is worth it.
    Its a forearm feeling that is built up over a long time through a system that is slow and one armed al the way to fast and blind folded.A practiced person would enjoy having a go at it I imagine although the style that does utilize it in nose to nose fighting feels the whole opponents intention through that point, I imagine a machine having zero intention and a very stable balance would exercise them in reaction speed only as an additional benefit. It would be interesting to get a local advanced practitioner of Wing Chun in to see what they think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    It would be interesting to get a local advanced practitioner of Wing Chun in to see what they think.
    I emailed a few other boxing gyms and about 5 martial arts schools if I could bring the RBT there, and only one boxing gym took up the offer and they were surprised they couldn't slip the jabs at the slower speeds.

    You gave me an idea to email martial arts schools and challenge them that they may not be good enough to slip normal jabs and the RBT can prove it. Appeal to their challenging ego.

    Interesting about the blind folded close range fighting technique. Sounds very advanced.

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    Looking at it, how much will they retail at.
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    Looking at it, how much will they retail at.
    I really don't know. The arms and shoulders that are the least expensive out of all it can be made much cheaper by buying in higher amounts. The electronics is the biggest cost, but if a company took on the project, once the various modes were programmed for the random punch sequences, that could be made into a computer chip rather than the more expensive Programmable Logic Controller and Power Supply that I'm using now.

    So, if I were guessing, a company could sell them around $300 to $400, maybe even cheaper. Don't even ask what I spent coming up with what would work and the time doing it. It is much harder than it appears.

    It's the hardest workout tool I have, bar none. I've hit various bags for years thinking my shoulders were in good shape, until......the RBT came along.

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    that's an amazing device you got there! wouldn't mind buying one for that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God.in.my.corner View Post
    that's an amazing device you got there! wouldn't mind buying one for that price.
    Thanks. As mentioned, there is so much more I would like to do to the RBT but the lack of funding will delay that. All I can do is continue to see if a company that sees its potential will invest in it.

    As it is now, it has taught me so much. I know if I can't slip a 9 mph jab from it, my 10 mph bare fisted jab will very likely hit its mark before a person can react. Adding 1 mph to a jab really makes a difference too and I will see if I could analyze how to get my jab to 11 mph.

    It would be interesting to see how a boxer's jab speed changes from wearing a boxing glove compared to not wearing one and where the jab hand is positioned before the jab to see if more speed can be attained by making a slight change in position. As far as I know, punches have never been analyzed like that and I wonder why. At least the RBT can make a person aware of what jab speeds in mph really reveal to a reaction time.

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    I've read a lot of this stuff, and have been giving you the benefit of the doubt, and can actually see a use for this machine. But I gotta tell you something. I am starting to see you wander into threads talking about things you have no idea about with this sport while promoting your contraption. So you are starting to lose me fast.

    And for the record...I was one of the first people "The Truth Is" on another site who told you how ridiculous it was that you were advertising how this machine was better then a sparring partner (yes, I know, you said you were joking...but it covered 1/2 of your promotional page at the time). Atleast you had to good sense to remove that claim, for it was truly laughable. So sorry if this seems a bit bitter, but stick to what you know. Building an interesting machine with a potential use for limited help with a boxer in one or 2 areas.

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