Of the current Belt holders at HW who do you consider the Man.

[rjj tszyu]

I voted Valuev because there was no John Ruiz option. We all know he's the TRUE champ. Seriously, saying 'I expect 0 votes' is just too tempting if you're bored on a Friday night.

Truthfully, I've got to say its Wlad. In years to come we will appreciate how good he is. I don't think he is or ever will be Top 10 of all time at HW, but for me he's already Top 20.

I knew someone wouldn't be able to resist lol.

I think Vitali will go down above Wlad and if they were to fight, which they understandably won't, I think Vitali would beat Wlad via mid round KO!

[El Kabong]

...I don't know about that, people are so certain Vitali would beat Wladimir, but it's not like Wlad is a slouch, it's not like Wlad can't box, it's not like Vitali is head and shoulders better than Wlad. Wladimir has a better arsenal than Vitali and is far superior as a BOXER and if he was to press the action I doubt Vitali (who fights in spurts) would be able to handle it.

[rjj tszyu]

...I don't know about that, people are so certain Vitali would beat Wladimir, but it's not like Wlad is a slouch, it's not like Wlad can't box, it's not like Vitali is head and shoulders better than Wlad. Wladimir has a better arsenal than Vitali and is far superior as a BOXER and if he was to press the action I doubt Vitali (who fights in spurts) would be able to handle it.

I think Vitali is underrated as a boxer. Ok he might not be as text book as Wlad but he doesn't make many mistakes either and when he does he has a very good (although i'm not sure it's as good as it once was) chin.

Another thing is Wlad nearly always has height and reach on his side and when he doesn't it's against someone who is not anywhere near his league (not that there are many in the Klits league at the mo), but against Vitali he would be giving up 2 inches in height and I think they both have 80" reach so that would be equal.

It's a shame they are brothers really because there is a genuine big time HW clash there and we will never see it!

[El Kabong]

...it's fun to speculate, but I'd back Wlad in a fight vs Vitali he's more fundamentally sound

[rjj tszyu]

...it's fun to speculate, but I'd back Wlad in a fight vs Vitali he's more fundamentally sound

True..... But isn't that what people were saying about Michael Spinks going into the Tyson fight??

[El Kabong]

I wouldn't know, but Spinks could be as sound as Ray Robinson it wouldn't change the fact he was basically a light heavyweight

[Kev]

It's a farcical situation imo. Of course Wlad probably deserves the spot as he's defended his belt many times and tried to unify the division.

His brother coming back has thrown a wrench into things though. He won't ever unify of course, and will never fight his brother but if they were not related and could go up against each other, I have little doubt, that even at 38 Vitali beats the snot out of the younger Wladimir.

[bzkfn]

...it's fun to speculate, but I'd back Wlad in a fight vs Vitali he's more fundamentally sound

Vitali. He is simply awesome. I don't understand your point of view Lyle. Wlad is a joke for me. I'm waiting for somebody to test his chin again.

[Drago]

i think vitali beat sall the heavys out there at the moment

dont know if i can say the same abt wlad

[El Kabong]

...it's fun to speculate, but I'd back Wlad in a fight vs Vitali he's more fundamentally sound

Vitali. He is simply awesome. I don't understand your point of view Lyle. Wlad is a joke for me. I'm waiting for somebody to test his chin again.

...so you've been waiting 5-6 years for Wlad to get KO'd again? For a guy you don't consider dominant and who has fought the best competition out there that's a long time to wait for something you assume is easy to do.

[bzkfn]

...it's fun to speculate, but I'd back Wlad in a fight vs Vitali he's more fundamentally sound

Vitali. He is simply awesome. I don't understand your point of view Lyle. Wlad is a joke for me. I'm waiting for somebody to test his chin again.

...so you've been waiting 5-6 years for Wlad to get KO'd again? For a guy you don't consider dominant and who has fought the best competition out there that's a long time to wait for something you assume is easy to do.

No I'm not denying he is a talented boxer who knows how to negate his opponent's skills. I just can't abide by having a Heavyweight Champion who seems so afraid of getting punched. Every time Chagaev got within punching range, he grabbed hold as quickly as possible. Against Ibragimov he had him finished in the 9th, but let him out of trouble to put us through 3 more rounds of crap. Against Rahman, he could have finished him in the 1st, but again let it go. I just think his lack of belief in himself will be his undoing. Vitali is a real champion. Fights the more dangerous opponents for me and I think he'd KO his brother if they every fought.