Training device

[atgatt]

Looking at it, how much will they retail at.

I really don't know. The arms and shoulders that are the least expensive out of all it can be made much cheaper by buying in higher amounts. The electronics is the biggest cost, but if a company took on the project, once the various modes were programmed for the random punch sequences, that could be made into a computer chip rather than the more expensive Programmable Logic Controller and Power Supply that I'm using now.

So, if I were guessing, a company could sell them around $300 to $400, maybe even cheaper. Don't even ask what I spent coming up with what would work and the time doing it. It is much harder than it appears.

It's the hardest workout tool I have, bar none. I've hit various bags for years thinking my shoulders were in good shape, until......the RBT came along.

[God.in.my.corner]

that's an amazing device you got there! wouldn't mind buying one for that price.

[atgatt]

that's an amazing device you got there! wouldn't mind buying one for that price.

Thanks. As mentioned, there is so much more I would like to do to the RBT but the lack of funding will delay that. All I can do is continue to see if a company that sees its potential will invest in it.

As it is now, it has taught me so much. I know if I can't slip a 9 mph jab from it, my 10 mph bare fisted jab will very likely hit its mark before a person can react. Adding 1 mph to a jab really makes a difference too and I will see if I could analyze how to get my jab to 11 mph.

It would be interesting to see how a boxer's jab speed changes from wearing a boxing glove compared to not wearing one and where the jab hand is positioned before the jab to see if more speed can be attained by making a slight change in position. As far as I know, punches have never been analyzed like that and I wonder why. At least the RBT can make a person aware of what jab speeds in mph really reveal to a reaction time.

[Youngblood]

I've read a lot of this stuff, and have been giving you the benefit of the doubt, and can actually see a use for this machine. But I gotta tell you something. I am starting to see you wander into threads talking about things you have no idea about with this sport while promoting your contraption. So you are starting to lose me fast.

And for the record...I was one of the first people "The Truth Is" on another site who told you how ridiculous it was that you were advertising how this machine was better then a sparring partner (yes, I know, you said you were joking...but it covered 1/2 of your promotional page at the time). Atleast you had to good sense to remove that claim, for it was truly laughable. So sorry if this seems a bit bitter, but stick to what you know. Building an interesting machine with a potential use for limited help with a boxer in one or 2 areas.

[atgatt]

I've read a lot of this stuff, and have been giving you the benefit of the doubt, and can actually see a use for this machine. But I gotta tell you something. I am starting to see you wander into threads talking about things you have no idea about with this sport while promoting your contraption. So you are starting to lose me fast.

And for the record...I was one of the first people "The Truth Is" on another site who told you how ridiculous it was that you were advertising how this machine was better then a sparring partner (yes, I know, you said you were joking...but it covered 1/2 of your promotional page at the time). Atleast you had to good sense to remove that claim, for it was truly laughable. So sorry if this seems a bit bitter, but stick to what you know. Building an interesting machine with a potential use for limited help with a boxer in one or 2 areas.

Truth? You claim to be saying the truth?! What I had was a COMPARISON to a sparring partner. You and others assumed that I was saying it was better. The joking part was saying how the RBT didn't get sweaty, etc. Why don't you say the truth how I asked which one of those claims were not true in the comparison. Not one person did that. They just kept mouthing off but couldn't produce and here it goes again. I don't care if I lose people like you fast. Take Reading 101 again and see what a person is saying rather than assuming. I took out the comparison realizing that people read what they want instead of what is there. I should have left it so I do lose people like you fast.

As far as promoting my "contraption", I'll continue to do so. If you don't like it, then don't have interest. Sorry if you are the only expert out there knowing anything about the sport and no one else can make anything that just might be better than a slip bag.

Hey "truthseeker", which one of my comparisons to a sparring partner was not true? Come on. Let the truth be known to all. If you can't make that claim, how are you the one out for truth and justice?

Go to Boxingscene.com and copy and past here a comparison that was brought up that was wrong. Can you?

[Youngblood]

Truth? You claim to be saying the truth?! What I had was a COMPARISON to a sparring partner. You and others assumed that I was saying it was better. The joking part was saying how the RBT didn't get sweaty, etc. Why don't you say the truth how I asked which one of those claims were not true in the comparison. Not one person did that. They just kept mouthing off but couldn't produce and here it goes again. I don't care if I lose people like you fast. Take Reading 101 again and see what a person is saying rather than assuming. I took out the comparison realizing that people read what they want instead of what is there. I should have left it so I do lose people like you fast.

As far as promoting my "contraption", I'll continue to do so. If you don't like it, then don't have interest. Sorry if you are the only expert out there knowing anything about the sport and no one else can make anything that just might be better than a slip bag.

Hey "truthseeker", which one of my comparisons to a sparring partner was not true? Come on. Let the truth be known to all. If you can't make that claim, how are you the one out for truth and justice?

Go to Boxingscene.com and copy and past here a comparison that was brought up that was wrong. Can you?

Listen you jackass. I was one of the only ones willing to help you, and offer constructive crritcism there. And only on the marketing. To help you.

But now that you are showing your true colors, I will be a little more honest and less compassionate to your oblivion. That goofy thing you made serves little purpose. It will cost more then anyone in their right mind would put out to buy, let alone a company with bottomline dollar sense understanding the market and limited funds often available to boxing gyms. It just does not hold very much value. I think if anything, it could be a problem for boxers to use, engraining a one-dimensional approach to blocking and slipping and not allowing for all the variation something as simple as a jab has.

So go ahead and keep telling people how sweet it is cuz your radar gun don't lie, and 9 miles per hr, oh WAIT, 11 miles per hr is the shit and just over rides everything else.

And you can post whatever defensive reply you want, I really don't care, I won't be responding as I've read about as much of your 'knowledge' and inability to reason as I can stand.

[atgatt]

Truth? You claim to be saying the truth?! What I had was a COMPARISON to a sparring partner. You and others assumed that I was saying it was better. The joking part was saying how the RBT didn't get sweaty, etc. Why don't you say the truth how I asked which one of those claims were not true in the comparison. Not one person did that. They just kept mouthing off but couldn't produce and here it goes again. I don't care if I lose people like you fast. Take Reading 101 again and see what a person is saying rather than assuming. I took out the comparison realizing that people read what they want instead of what is there. I should have left it so I do lose people like you fast.

As far as promoting my "contraption", I'll continue to do so. If you don't like it, then don't have interest. Sorry if you are the only expert out there knowing anything about the sport and no one else can make anything that just might be better than a slip bag.

Hey "truthseeker", which one of my comparisons to a sparring partner was not true? Come on. Let the truth be known to all. If you can't make that claim, how are you the one out for truth and justice?

Go to Boxingscene.com and copy and past here a comparison that was brought up that was wrong. Can you?

Listen you jackass. I was one of the only ones willing to help you, and offer constructive crritcism there. And only on the marketing. To help you.

But now that you are showing your true colors, I will be a little more honest and less compassionate to your oblivion. That goofy thing you made serves little purpose. It will cost more then anyone in their right mind would put out to buy, let alone a company with bottomline dollar sense understanding the market and limited funds often available to boxing gyms. It just does not hold very much value. I think if anything, it could be a problem for boxers to use, engraining a one-dimensional approach to blocking and slipping and not allowing for all the variation something as simple as a jab has.

So go ahead and keep telling people how sweet it is cuz your radar gun don't lie, and 9 miles per hr, oh WAIT, 11 miles per hr is the shit and just over rides everything else.

And you can post whatever defensive reply you want, I really don't care, I won't be responding as I've read about as much of your 'knowledge' and inability to reason as I can stand.

Just as I thought, you can't bring up anything in the comparison I had that was not true. You slam me for it but can't back it up. I come up with a tool that really upsets some people for some reason. Since it is NOT a sparring partner, how dare I. Well, I do dare and if you don't like it, fine, but please be honest what was shared in that other forum rather than slander me. If name calling makes you feel big, go ahead. It pleased another in that forum to voice how'd he like to beat me up. Imagine that, I weigh 130 lbs, 56 years old, I have a rebuilt shoulder and that "brave boxer" who has been in the ring physically threatens me. Of course if I looked like Mike Tyson his voice would have changed. You prove that what makes a man a man has nothing to do with a ring. Let people decide who is showing their "true colors".