Anyone else think Pavlik is ruined?

[Spicoli]

He's not ruined just glaringly exposed.

[Drago]

pavlik brings so much to boxing he is like a ricky hatton, will always have the working class following him. i always thought pavlik was a pretty easy nights work for calzaghe. maybe we being a little harsh on him as stated earlier hopkins is not your average fighter he is a smart tough SOB & i stated b4 he fought hopkins that pavlik had nothing to gain from fighting him

[El Kabong]

I disagree, had Pavlik KO'd Hopkins he would have earned a great deal of respect.

Pavlik just fights in a bully style, he has slow hands, he rarely moves his head (but he has decent defense which makes up for that), his punches aren't sharp they are the Foreman-esque thudding power shots and some guys find that a lot easier to prepare for, for some odd reason.

I think Kelly has some bigger issues than boxing is all and I think he's feeling sorry for himself for losing to Hopkins that bad. Lots of fighters have battled drugs and alcohol outside the ring, Kelly isn't the first and he won't be the last...he just needs to chill out from boxing for a while and heal up mentally, physically, psychologically....he could return as a better fighter or he could just be happier away from the sport

[paddy448]

im answering too this thread without reading everthing thats been written, my view is that the staff infection is bullshit, i happen too no that pavlik suffers with deppression, me myself have suffered with it, its no joke. my view is that kelly has not dealt with the hopkins loss too well, who can blame him he was schooled like an infant was fucked by a senior. no shit. thats the way it goes. my view is that he has lost his confidence and his invincabilatee that he once had has gone, and too a fighter of his aura is his world and i think he has lost that, i hope he gets it back

[Drago]

I disagree, had Pavlik KO'd Hopkins he would have earned a great deal of respect.

Pavlik just fights in a bully style, he has slow hands, he rarely moves his head (but he has decent defense which makes up for that), his punches aren't sharp they are the Foreman-esque thudding power shots and some guys find that a lot easier to prepare for, for some odd reason.

I think Kelly has some bigger issues than boxing is all and I think he's feeling sorry for himself for losing to Hopkins that bad. Lots of fighters have battled drugs and alcohol outside the ring, Kelly isn't the first and he won't be the last...he just needs to chill out from boxing for a while and heal up mentally, physically, psychologically....he could return as a better fighter or he could just be happier away from the sport

pavlik may of gained respect for beatin hopkins but everyone would of said that hopkins was over the hill (regardless of fight with JC) I think the idea was to prove he was better than calzaghe & it went horribly wrong.