Who won? Froch? Or Dirrell?

[HattonTheHammer]

Ive seen the fight now SIX times and ive tried....ive tried so hard to see the fight in the eyes of a andre dirrell fan.

I even resorted to giving him round 12 yet still scored the fight for froch (like i did on all previous 5 occasions)

I cant watch the fight anymore because the more i watch it the more apparently clear it becomes that carl won the fight by 2-3 rounds, maybe even more!!

You're right, it was a shutout. In fact, whilst we're at it, let's give Froch a TKO victory

Let me guess....

Hopkins beat Calzaghe
Holyfield-Lewis I was a draw
Taylor beat froch

[JazMerkin]

Ive seen the fight now SIX times and ive tried....ive tried so hard to see the fight in the eyes of a andre dirrell fan.

I even resorted to giving him round 12 yet still scored the fight for froch (like i did on all previous 5 occasions)

I cant watch the fight anymore because the more i watch it the more apparently clear it becomes that carl won the fight by 2-3 rounds, maybe even more!!

You're right, it was a shutout. In fact, whilst we're at it, let's give Froch a TKO victory

Let me guess....

Hopkins beat Calzaghe
Holyfield-Lewis I was a draw
Taylor beat froch

Hopkins did just edge Calzaghe imo, but it was a close fight that went the other way & I didn't care as I wanted Joe to win.

Lewis easily beat Holyfield.

Taylor was ahead of Froch, but it's academic as Froch KO'd him.

Unlike you I watch fights without the Union Jack draped over me & to the tune of God Save the Queen.

How did you have Hatton-Collazo btw?

We all know that according to you, Hatton was in the fight with Mayweather up until Cortez robbed him of a glorious win

[skel1983]

You're right, it was a shutout. In fact, whilst we're at it, let's give Froch a TKO victory

Let me guess....

Hopkins beat Calzaghe
Holyfield-Lewis I was a draw
Taylor beat froch

Hopkins did just edge Calzaghe imo, but it was a close fight that went the other way & I didn't care as I wanted Joe to win.

Lewis easily beat Holyfield.

Taylor was ahead of Froch, but it's academic as Froch KO'd him.

Unlike you I watch fights without the Union Jack draped over me & to the tune of God Save the Queen.

How did you have Hatton-Collazo btw?

We all know that according to you, Hatton was in the fight with Mayweather up until Cortez robbed him of a glorious win

Come on Jaz asking Hammer to judge a Hatton fight . My moneys on 120-108 to Hatton , i actully had Hatton winning that fight I cant remember my scorecard but I had him just edging it.

[JazMerkin]

Let me guess....

Hopkins beat Calzaghe
Holyfield-Lewis I was a draw
Taylor beat froch

Hopkins did just edge Calzaghe imo, but it was a close fight that went the other way & I didn't care as I wanted Joe to win.

Lewis easily beat Holyfield.

Taylor was ahead of Froch, but it's academic as Froch KO'd him.

Unlike you I watch fights without the Union Jack draped over me & to the tune of God Save the Queen.

How did you have Hatton-Collazo btw?

We all know that according to you, Hatton was in the fight with Mayweather up until Cortez robbed him of a glorious win

Come on Jaz asking Hammer to judge a Hatton fight . My moneys on 120-108 to Hatton , i actully had Hatton winning that fight I cant remember my scorecard but I had him just edging it.

So did I, had it 114-113 because of the KD, which did seem a slip. But seeing as Froch won by '2 or 3 rounds, maybe more!!!', I thought I'd find out his typically neutral & fair judgement on another close fight. One which ironically I'm sure he had no problems the close rounds going to the challenger

[Althugz]

You're right, it was a shutout. In fact, whilst we're at it, let's give Froch a TKO victory

Let me guess....

Hopkins beat Calzaghe
Holyfield-Lewis I was a draw
Taylor beat froch

Unlike you I watch fights without the Union Jack draped over me & to the tune of God Save the Queen.

And that is the key point here. I think I've seen one Non-Brit here have Froch winning. That is it!

Just watched this and Direll won handily. The difference in quality was light years apart. Direll needs to be mentally tougher if he wants to be a world champ but really, he should be one as I type this.

Direll's punches were cleaner, defence was better, work rate was about even. Froch didn't win in one scoring department for me.

Horrible fight, made so because of Froch's lack of quality in stopping Direll doing what he wanted to do.

Froch is on borrowed time - Kessler will destroy him

[Memphis]

And that is the key point here. I think I've seen one Non-Brit here have Froch winning. That is it!

Then you clearly havent looked.

At a glance of the people voting Froch the winner I'd say its probably 40% of them are non Brits, could be wrong, could be more like 30-35, either way you slice it its more than one.

Thats hardly the strongest of arguements is it. Anyone who thought Froch won could throw the same rant right back at you, all those that voted Dirrell the winner only did so becuase they are A) Non Brits, or B) just dont like froch.

I like to give my Saddoboxing brothers and sisters a bit more credit than that, although I do accept a very small minority are like that.

[0james0]

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly!

the only guy who was staggered (and various times at that) was Froch, and how the hell is it 50/50, over 60 people have voted that Dirrell won compared to a handful saying Crotch won

[erics44]

i have only watched the fight the once and it was tough going

i dont remember froch staggered tho, and i dont remember the fouls you keep going on about

i could have it wrong

james said in his last post that the only man fighting was froch which is bang on and which is why he won

i bet i could last a few rounds in my advanced years with no boxing training with an average boxer running like dirrell, it isnt boxing, its more like tig

[amat]

This is a dead horse topic if there ever was one. I think if people actually score round by round though, there is no way to give the fight to Froch. That doesn't mean Dirrell didn't fight an ugly fight, I think it's a reaction that they say just give it to Froch because Dirrell was more responsible for it being a bad fight. But if you score round by round, it's like impossible to give it to Froch imo. I had it 9-3 Dirrell, and I can retrieve my scorecard but I believe it was rounds 6,7 and 8 that I gave to Froch. Just no way he won that fight under the rules by which we could score boxing. No American or anti-Froch bias, Froch could have been my brother and I would have gave that fight to Dirrell.

[GAME]

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly!

the only guy who was staggered (and various times at that) was Froch, and how the hell is it 50/50, over 60 people have voted that Dirrell won compared to a handful saying Crotch won

All that means is that there are more Dirrell fans that Froch fans on here. Froch is hated in this country so it explains alot.

I think its a fight that could have gone either way. Wasnt impressed with Froch but you cant win a title the way Dirrel tried to. Could have been a draw.

[0james0]

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly!

the only guy who was staggered (and various times at that) was Froch, and how the hell is it 50/50, over 60 people have voted that Dirrell won compared to a handful saying Crotch won

OK I'll give you that one, the poll vote. But in actual thread comments it seems pretty even.

Still either one sided or the other, no middle, which makes me thinking everyone (including myself) is wearing some colour of tinted glasses.