Michael Moore's "Capitalism"

[Kirkland Laing]

A couple of posts ago you were arguing he's a libertarian. Now you're claiming he was never a libertarian and was always a liberal. I won't accuse you of hypocrisy just because you changed your mind about this. And the NBA have no problem with the rapper owning a club, while the NFL clearly had reservations about allowing the race-baiter Limbaugh to be involved with the NFL. True to type, Limbaugh responded to the NFL apparently putting the blocks on him by accusing them of........ racism.

[VictorCharlie]

you two are like watching Groundhog day.

[OumaFan]

The liberal commentator I hate is Chris Matthews. Not cause of what he says, I agree with much of it but just cause he never shuts the fuck up. Always talking, gibber gabber, etc., endless monologues and then he'll talk over his guests which annoys me even when its a conservative. He's the Teddy Atlas of political commentators.

[CFH]

you two are like watching Groundhog day.

Well said.

[El Kabong]

A couple of posts ago you were arguing he's a libertarian. Now you're claiming he was never a libertarian and was always a liberal. I won't accuse you of hypocrisy just because you changed your mind about this. And the NBA have no problem with the rapper owning a club, while the NFL clearly had reservations about allowing the race-baiter Limbaugh to be involved with the NFL. True to type, Limbaugh responded to the NFL apparently putting the blocks on him by accusing them of........ racism.

OK Kirkland obviously you are lacking your A game today

#1 I never argued that Bill Maher was a libertarian....FACT
#2 I quoted Maher saying that he considered himself a libertarian and then I quoted him saying things that contradicted the view point of ANYONE considering themselves a libertarian
#3 You call Rush a "race baiter" but what was Jay-Z doing when he used the lyric "no more white lies, because my president in black"

...are you ready to give up yet

[Gandalf]

Capitalism is a very good film and I think even Lyle should give it a chance. It's not about vacuous political party allegience, but about a bunch of heartless fuckwits screwing up everything for everyone no matter what the cost...which was of course tax payer money and a rising and uncontrollable debt to the rest of the world. Surely, left or right people all agree that what has passed has been throughly lacking in accountability and responsibility. It was tough for Moore to tackle this film because it is an area that reaches out into so many areas, but on the whole he does a very good job. And you cannot doubt that his heart is in the right place.

I'm sure you will get some brainless twits muttering about 'facts', but you cannot really argue with the 'fact' that Americans have been right royally screwed up the bum for a long, long time.

I recommend the film to anyone with a conscience or a pulse. It's a good watch whether you agree or disagree with the message.

[Kirkland Laing]

Capitalism is a very good film and I think even Lyle should give it a chance. It's not about vacuous political party allegience, but about a bunch of heartless fuckwits screwing up everything for everyone no matter what the cost...which was of course tax payer money and a rising and uncontrollable debt to the rest of the world. Surely, left or right people all agree that what has passed has been throughly lacking in accountability and responsibility. It was tough for Moore to tackle this film because it is an area that reaches out into so many areas, but on the whole he does a very good job. And you cannot doubt that his heart is in the right place.

I'm sure you will get some brainless twits muttering about 'facts', but you cannot really argue with the 'fact' that Americans have been right royally screwed up the bum for a long, long time.

I recommend the film to anyone with a conscience or a pulse. It's a good watch whether you agree or disagree with the message.

The heartless fuckwits would be the politicians, right? Say what you like about people running Wall Street, they're not fuckwits. They are heartless though. Michael Moore will be doing a sequel to this film in a year or ten in which he'll wonder why the government not only bailed the banksters out but didn't bring in any effective regulation and gave them trillions of taxpayer money to play with which eventually led to the future even bigger meltdown that the next film will chronicle.

[Gandalf]

Capitalism is a very good film and I think even Lyle should give it a chance. It's not about vacuous political party allegience, but about a bunch of heartless fuckwits screwing up everything for everyone no matter what the cost...which was of course tax payer money and a rising and uncontrollable debt to the rest of the world. Surely, left or right people all agree that what has passed has been throughly lacking in accountability and responsibility. It was tough for Moore to tackle this film because it is an area that reaches out into so many areas, but on the whole he does a very good job. And you cannot doubt that his heart is in the right place.

I'm sure you will get some brainless twits muttering about 'facts', but you cannot really argue with the 'fact' that Americans have been right royally screwed up the bum for a long, long time.

I recommend the film to anyone with a conscience or a pulse. It's a good watch whether you agree or disagree with the message.

The heartless fuckwits would be the politicians, right? Say what you like about people running Wall Street, they're not fuckwits. They are heartless though. Michael Moore will be doing a sequel to this film in a year or ten in which he'll wonder why the government not only bailed the banksters out but didn't bring in any effective regulation and gave them trillions of taxpayer money to play with which eventually led to the future even bigger meltdown that the next film will chronicle.

When I say "fuckwit" it is more a general term of abuse for all those who just don't care about what they have planted. I apply the term liberally to all of those who have helped bring about what has been going on. It's not really an attack on intelligence. Those Wall Street people are clearly no fools, whence the power they are able to exert.

[Gandalf]

Capitalism is a very good film and I think even Lyle should give it a chance. It's not about vacuous political party allegience, but about a bunch of heartless fuckwits screwing up everything for everyone no matter what the cost...which was of course tax payer money and a rising and uncontrollable debt to the rest of the world. Surely, left or right people all agree that what has passed has been throughly lacking in accountability and responsibility. It was tough for Moore to tackle this film because it is an area that reaches out into so many areas, but on the whole he does a very good job. And you cannot doubt that his heart is in the right place.

I'm sure you will get some brainless twits muttering about 'facts', but you cannot really argue with the 'fact' that Americans have been right royally screwed up the bum for a long, long time.

I recommend the film to anyone with a conscience or a pulse. It's a good watch whether you agree or disagree with the message.

The heartless fuckwits would be the politicians, right? Say what you like about people running Wall Street, they're not fuckwits. They are heartless though. Michael Moore will be doing a sequel to this film in a year or ten in which he'll wonder why the government not only bailed the banksters out but didn't bring in any effective regulation and gave them trillions of taxpayer money to play with which eventually led to the future even bigger meltdown that the next film will chronicle.

When I say "fuckwit" it is more a general term of abuse for all those who just don't care about what they have planted. I apply the term liberally to all of those who have helped bring about what has been going on. It's not really an attack on intelligence. Those Wall Street people are clearly no fools, whence the power they are able to exert.

I know I'm quoting myself which is gay, but I shall proceed nonetheless.

I agree totally about the lack of regulation. It is totally insane. There appear to be no checks and balances and this money is given to them by the government from the working people who are experiencing the worst economic crisis since the great depression. This is some nutty shit and I don't know how anyone can defend what has been going on here.

[Kirkland Laing]

The heartless fuckwits would be the politicians, right? Say what you like about people running Wall Street, they're not fuckwits. They are heartless though. Michael Moore will be doing a sequel to this film in a year or ten in which he'll wonder why the government not only bailed the banksters out but didn't bring in any effective regulation and gave them trillions of taxpayer money to play with which eventually led to the future even bigger meltdown that the next film will chronicle.

When I say "fuckwit" it is more a general term of abuse for all those who just don't care about what they have planted. I apply the term liberally to all of those who have helped bring about what has been going on. It's not really an attack on intelligence. Those Wall Street people are clearly no fools, whence the power they are able to exert.

I know I'm quoting myself which is gay, but I shall proceed nonetheless.

I agree totally about the lack of regulation. It is totally insane. There appear to be no checks and balances and this money is given to them by the government from the working people who are experiencing the worst economic crisis since the great depression. This is some nutty shit and I don't know how anyone can defend what has been going on here.

It's hard to believe it's happening. They're guaranteeing an even bigger meltdown in the future, putting the entire financial system in question. It's actually going to have to collapse before it's reformed. Everybody currently making policy and everybody involved over the past decade should be immediately jailed, that's just for starters. Nobody's money is safe in the current system.

[Kirkland Laing]

A couple of posts ago you were arguing he's a libertarian. Now you're claiming he was never a libertarian and was always a liberal. I won't accuse you of hypocrisy just because you changed your mind about this. And the NBA have no problem with the rapper owning a club, while the NFL clearly had reservations about allowing the race-baiter Limbaugh to be involved with the NFL. True to type, Limbaugh responded to the NFL apparently putting the blocks on him by accusing them of........ racism.

OK Kirkland obviously you are lacking your A game today

#1 I never argued that Bill Maher was a libertarian....FACT
#2 I quoted Maher saying that he considered himself a libertarian and then I quoted him saying things that contradicted the view point of ANYONE considering themselves a libertarian
#3 You call Rush a "race baiter" but what was Jay-Z doing when he used the lyric "no more white lies, because my president in black"

...are you ready to give up yet

I can't take any more of your FACTS Lyle. Facts only from now on please if you want a reply.

And stop being so hypersensitive to anything you think is racist from a black person, it's like you're the white Al Sharpton. I see no racism in what the rapper had to say and I'm sure only people like Limbaugh can see the racism there. The fact remains that the world in general and the NBA in particular don't see any problem with anything he said, unlike the NFL with the race-baiter Limbaugh.

[El Kabong]

I can't take any more of your FACTS Lyle. Facts only from now on please if you want a reply.

And stop being so hypersensitive to anything you think is racist from a black person, it's like you're the white Al Sharpton. I see no racism in what the rapper had to say and I'm sure only people like Limbaugh can see the racism there. The fact remains that the world in general and the NBA in particular don't see any problem with anything he said, unlike the NFL with the race-baiter Limbaugh.

Yeah I'm sure you can't....where are your FACTS and evidence...I not only posted FACTS I posted VIDEO evidence just to give you the double whammy.

I'm sure your ego is bruised, you usually resort to this childish behavior when you've been bested in debate....fine, b*tch and complain about my facts all you want, I posted facts AND videos and all you've done is call Rush Limbaugh a race baiter by doing exactly what the media did and using his quotes out of context and even that doesn't matter because I bested you there as well by using Jay-Z as an example and if you don't appreciate that example then you're guilty of using a double standard and that makes you an even bigger asshole (if possible) than normal.

Kirk, respond to me when you're ready to admit that you were wrong and that you just got your ass handed to you in this debate...if you want to just ask around, I'm sure somebody will tell you the truth, whether you believe it or not is another question, but until then have fun trying to block this entire thread out of your memory

[Kirkland Laing]

I can't take any more of your FACTS Lyle. Facts only from now on please if you want a reply.

And stop being so hypersensitive to anything you think is racist from a black person, it's like you're the white Al Sharpton. I see no racism in what the rapper had to say and I'm sure only people like Limbaugh can see the racism there. The fact remains that the world in general and the NBA in particular don't see any problem with anything he said, unlike the NFL with the race-baiter Limbaugh.

Yeah I'm sure you can't....where are your FACTS and evidence...I not only posted FACTS I posted VIDEO evidence just to give you the double whammy.

I'm sure your ego is bruised, you usually resort to this childish behavior when you've been bested in debate....fine, b*tch and complain about my facts all you want, I posted facts AND videos and all you've done is call Rush Limbaugh a race baiter by doing exactly what the media did and using his quotes out of context and even that doesn't matter because I bested you there as well by using Jay-Z as an example and if you don't appreciate that example then you're guilty of using a double standard and that makes you an even bigger asshole (if possible) than normal.

Kirk, respond to me when you're ready to admit that you were wrong and that you just got your ass handed to you in this debate...if you want to just ask around, I'm sure somebody will tell you the truth, whether you believe it or not is another question, but until then have fun trying to block this entire thread out of your memory

Changing your mind does not make you a hypocrite. And that's a fact. What part of this don't you understand?

Only you and people like Limbaugh can see the racism in what the rapper had to say. Nobody else can. But such a large percentage of people can see the racism that Limbaugh trades in every day that he's seen as an unfit person to be involved with the NFL. That isn't my opinion, that's the NFL's opinion. The view from corporate America is that he's just too much of a scumbag for any corporation or public entity that needs to maintain public goodwill to allow him to own part of it. Not my view, or my opinion, the opinion of corporate America, based on how they see American public opinion. And as you can see from my quote art and your hypersensitivity to anything you percieve as racism towards white people from nonwhite people, the double standards are all on yours and Limbaugh's side.

[El Kabong]

....are you all cried out yet?

Bill Maher didn't change his mind, he didn't change his opinion, he never was a libertarian to begin with. He may agree with Libertarians on social issues (bar gun ownership) but definently not on the Federal Government or the Economy or Taxes or anything else and that doesn't exactly make him a libertarian now does it?

You can't see that what Jay-Z said was racist Oh well, I guess that just proves my point about you having double standards...thanks for outing yourself as an ignorant bigot.

[Kirkland Laing]

....are you all cried out yet?

Bill Maher didn't change his mind, he didn't change his opinion, he never was a libertarian to begin with. He may agree with Libertarians on social issues (bar gun ownership) but definently not on the Federal Government or the Economy or Taxes or anything else and that doesn't exactly make him a libertarian now does it?

You can't see that what Jay-Z said was racist Oh well, I guess that just proves my point about you having double standards...thanks for outing yourself as an ignorant bigot.

I'm happy to let this post speak for itself. As a study in irony I couldn't come up with anything better. God bless you Lyle.