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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

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    I'm still of the mind that Mosley gets Berto out of there.Andre has faced nothing and no one as deep and well rounded on a championship level as a Mosley and will have to hone his flaws in mid fight.He falls forward heavy waaay to much and his outside is one-two and except a clinch.He gets caught in between styles badly.Not good.
    He outside game is a one-two? Hardly, Berto throws amazing combinations from the outside, and most importantly he has a real jab while Mosley doesn't. Berto's biggest problem is he doesn't move well and he when starts to brawl he squares up(probably from watching too much Mike Tyson, but at least Tyson moved to the side). Mosley's biggest problem is that he's choppy, and doesn't box like a technical boxer, but he also can't do the amazing physical things ROy JOens and Mayweather can do despite his speed and strength, but Mosley's durability, speed and strength give him a unique oppertunity to load up on punches and get away with it, he has pretty good defensive skills, but he doesn't need to because his chin is impenetrable, and he is very fast so he gets away with most of his mistakes against most opponents.
    I just dont see it.I keep looking but lots of work to do in his corner.Certainly not the amazing combinations from the outside part.I see a somewhat flawed fighter,I think thats bertos biggest problem,who has yet to find his comfort zone,consistency in one style when things get heady in there and a guy who makes many mistakes that a solid vet can capitalize on.

    Bertos legs are so rigged,he's cumbersome when he comes in as top falls heavy in while legs wided and just do not bend for the most part.Half the time he creates,looks for clinches after throwing a few.His jab has improved with not alot behind it,he squares in a big way,pulls back while heads high up,and uppercuts and hooks pretty wide.I think hes the more choppy puncher than a Mosley by far.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
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    I'm still of the mind that Mosley gets Berto out of there.Andre has faced nothing and no one as deep and well rounded on a championship level as a Mosley and will have to hone his flaws in mid fight.He falls forward heavy waaay to much and his outside is one-two and except a clinch.He gets caught in between styles badly.Not good.
    He outside game is a one-two? Hardly, Berto throws amazing combinations from the outside, and most importantly he has a real jab while Mosley doesn't. Berto's biggest problem is he doesn't move well and he when starts to brawl he squares up(probably from watching too much Mike Tyson, but at least Tyson moved to the side). Mosley's biggest problem is that he's choppy, and doesn't box like a technical boxer, but he also can't do the amazing physical things ROy JOens and Mayweather can do despite his speed and strength, but Mosley's durability, speed and strength give him a unique oppertunity to load up on punches and get away with it, he has pretty good defensive skills, but he doesn't need to because his chin is impenetrable, and he is very fast so he gets away with most of his mistakes against most opponents.
    I just dont see it.I keep looking but lots of work to do in his corner.Certainly not the amazing combinations from the outside part.I see a somewhat flawed fighter,I think thats bertos biggest problem,who has yet to find his comfort zone,consistency in one style when things get heady in there and a guy who makes many mistakes that a solid vet can capitalize on.

    Bertos legs are so rigged,he's cumbersome when he comes in as top falls heavy in while legs wided and just do not bend for the most part.Half the time he creates,looks for clinches after throwing a few.His jab has improved with not alot behind it,he squares in a big way,pulls back while heads high up,and uppercuts and hooks pretty wide.I think hes the more choppy puncher than a Mosley by far.
    He does have his problems, but combinations aren't one of them, he throws fantastic combinations, but you're right his legs are very rigid, I don't know how he ran a 4.30 in football... I think if he could move like Dirrell or Mayweather or PAcquiao a lot of his problems would be solved because my biggest issues are that he squares up and tries to trade shots, and he can't move away from an opponent and change directions gracefully. Mosley can't do the same thing, and thats when he faced Wright and Forest he couldn't jump and pot shot because all they had to do was throw straight punches, and keep him at range and he had no weapons.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

    Still even in a firefight I'm not sure I really like Berto's chances. Berto needs to figure it out fast imo, gives away to many rounds and the Collazo fight was just so frustrating to watch. He gave Collazo many rounds just by constantly squaring up and trying to just land 1 shot. I'm interested in seeing the size differential, I have a feeling that Mosley will just be a lot stronger and more mobile. I'm not sold on Berto's jab either, or I'm not sold on him sticking to the jab at least.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

    Mosley got this.

    Berto may cause Mosley problems with his speed but if Mosley lands on that chin enough, Berto is going down.

    Mosley by TKO in 8 rounds.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

    Berto to me could just pull off an upset against Mosley. He has a much more awkward style to Margarito. Lets face it Margarito beat Cotto because he was cheating, the more I think about it the clearer it becomes, I mean he broke his nose early and it was a bad break. He didn't even seem to hit him that clean to do it either, then Cotto still outclassed him for round after round and was still ahead when the fight ended IMO. But something was draining Cotto every time Marg hit him and being a betting man I would put money on that Tony had stone gloves on in that fight.

    Anyway back to this fight, Mosley before Tony looked poor against Mayorga but now people think he is rejuvinated due to a great win over the cheat, saying that Berto by all accounts (I haven't seen the fight) was lucky to get the W against Collazo who a "younger" Mosley quite easily beat. But styles make fights and I don't think Mosley is still the man for taking on awkward hungry fighters like Berto. Very interesting one for me but I think i'd go Berto.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

    Just one comment "No doubt Mosley wins"
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    Default Re: Andre Berto vs Shane Mosley

    Berto is young and fast but mosley is a veteran, fast and a lot more savvy. I never thought mosley was that good at 154, but he has really impressed me at 147. Berto is a good up and coming fighter and I think he could be a contender in the future, but I think Mosley will take the guy to school. Mosley has been in there with the best of them and Berto isnt ready for what he brings to the table quite yet.

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