only one man in the history of this sport...

[JazMerkin]

No they arent and its completely unfair for you to tarnish everyone with the same brush.

98% of those that travelled to germany didnt end up smashing the place up yet you choose to base your opinions on the handful that did. Being an england football fan is about being passionate about your country and getting behind the team as much as you can. Naturally if 30,000 die hard fans travel out to watch a game of footie/boxing you are going to get the odd bad egg.

Many of those i met, spoke to in vegas were good knowlegable fight fans that were over there with the same intentions they would attend a footie game, for the love of the sport. No they probably cant tell you who kevin johnson or marco huck are. Doesnt mean they arent knowlegable fight fans does it just that there not hardcore nuts like me and you.

Your experience of vegas seems such a shame as mine was completely different. The HANDFUL of fans shouting racial obscenitys are c*nts of the highest order and dont deserve to breath the same breath as you and i that and that only i will agree with you on!

Were you at the weigh-in? Because I seem to remember you saying you travelled out AFTER that? In which case you have nothing to base it on as you weren't there.

As for the England football fans, READ what I wrote. I at no point said that all England fans were like that, just that many of the Hatton fans struck me as similar oafs as the ones who DO do that. I don't think everyone there supporting Hatton was like that (as I've already said), but a substantial number at the weigh-in were.

As for Germany, whilst again I said it was not all of them it was sadly a far higher proportion than 2%. If you'd like another analogy it's the same dicks who go on holiday to Spain or Greece & take a shit in a town square. As a country we seem to churn these morons out by the bucketload.

As for their knowledge, listen, I can accept someone as a boxing fan if they don't know Kevin Johnson or Marco Huck. I find it impossible to do so if they don't know who Juan Manuel Marquez or Shane Mosley are. I did meet some out there who were boxing fans, but all of them identified themselves as that rather than Hatton fans. This was not unique to Hatton, as I've said many of the Pacquiao fans were also dicks of the highest order, some of them also racist knobheads.

On this I will agree with you, Hatton does bring in a massive fanbase, but for them he's popular because he's 'one of them' (likes a drink & eating unhealthy food). However, it's not the most fanatical ever seen, merely the one with the best travelling support. He's not anywhere near the most popular fighter of all time, but he did take masses to the US twice, if we assume of course that they all or mostly went there to support Hatton.

[skel1983]

Lets be honest here, Hatton was fighting Mayweather and Pacquio when these numbers went over two of the best fighters that ever lived, where were these fans against Collazo, Castillo and Malignaggi the arena's were half empty.

I think Hatton has a unique brand of fans but I honestly think if any of our World Class fighters were fighting a unbeaton p4p no.1 star there would be huge intrest. Maybe not 30k going over but possibly close to that.

Before anyone says Calzaghe Hopkins Calzaghe RJJ Hopkins and RJJ were not unbeaton fighters in there prime.

So in truth Mayweather and Pacquio are one of the main reasons these fans went over to watch Hatton fight as the evidence proves with the numbers for the other fights he has had in the USA.

[HattonTheHammer]

Lets be honest here, Hatton was fighting Mayweather and Pacquio when these numbers went over two of the best fighters that ever lived, where were these fans against Collazo, Castillo and Malignaggi the arena's were half empty.

I think Hatton has a unique brand of fans but I honestly think if any of our World Class fighters were fighting a unbeaton p4p no.1 star there would be huge intrest. Maybe not 30k going over but possibly close to that.

Before anyone says Calzaghe Hopkins Calzaghe RJJ Hopkins and RJJ were not unbeaton fighters in there prime.

So in truth Mayweather and Pacquio are one of the main reasons these fans went over to watch Hatton fight as the evidence proves with the numbers for the other fights he has had in the USA.

Lennox Lewis fought for the greatest prize in boxing twice in a far bigger setting and only managed 6500. Calzaghe similar when he fought jones/Hopkins and lets not forgot the endless thousands upon thousands who headed out to see dear frank take on tyson twice.

I do understand what jaz is saying to a certain degree but he clearly has issues seperating raw passion and the odd 2-3 clowns he is refering too. No i wasnt at the weigh in but i think after at least 12hours air time, 36hours in and and around the strip im quite able to assess my own take on the fans that went over and as ive already mentioned you seemed to be in the small minority that didnt have a good time.

The support we give our sportsmen/women is second to none and a joy to behold. Just because a few bad eggs who`ve had one too many tizers decide to take it too far doesnt diminish the accomplishments of the large majority.

I was proud coming home from vegas. Not because of rickys performance or the fact that we outsung the fillipinos. But being able to see and hear those sort of emotions for a sport you love so dearly is something i`ll take to my grave with me!!

[JazMerkin]

Lets be honest here, Hatton was fighting Mayweather and Pacquio when these numbers went over two of the best fighters that ever lived, where were these fans against Collazo, Castillo and Malignaggi the arena's were half empty.

I think Hatton has a unique brand of fans but I honestly think if any of our World Class fighters were fighting a unbeaton p4p no.1 star there would be huge intrest. Maybe not 30k going over but possibly close to that.

Before anyone says Calzaghe Hopkins Calzaghe RJJ Hopkins and RJJ were not unbeaton fighters in there prime.

So in truth Mayweather and Pacquio are one of the main reasons these fans went over to watch Hatton fight as the evidence proves with the numbers for the other fights he has had in the USA.

Lennox Lewis fought for the greatest prize in boxing twice in a far bigger setting and only managed 6500. Calzaghe similar when he fought jones/Hopkins and lets not forgot the endless thousands upon thousands who headed out to see dear frank take on tyson twice.

I do understand what jaz is saying to a certain degree but he clearly has issues seperating raw passion and the odd 2-3 clowns he is refering too. No i wasnt at the weigh in but i think after at least 12hours air time, 36hours in and and around the strip im quite able to assess my own take on the fans that went over and as ive already mentioned you seemed to be in the small minority that didnt have a good time.

The support we give our sportsmen/women is second to none and a joy to behold. Just because a few bad eggs who`ve had one too many tizers decide to take it too far doesnt diminish the accomplishments of the large majority.

I was proud coming home from vegas. Not because of rickys performance or the fact that we outsung the fillipinos. But being able to see and hear those sort of emotions for a sport you love so dearly is something i`ll take to my grave with me!!

I had a great time, I just thought that a large number of Hatton's fans were tools. This whole raw passion thing is bollocks, I couldn't give a shit about fans singing songs or whatever else they want to do. But, boxing fans don't boo Shane Mosley so no one can hear what he's saying.

[skel1983]

Lets be honest here, Hatton was fighting Mayweather and Pacquio when these numbers went over two of the best fighters that ever lived, where were these fans against Collazo, Castillo and Malignaggi the arena's were half empty.

I think Hatton has a unique brand of fans but I honestly think if any of our World Class fighters were fighting a unbeaton p4p no.1 star there would be huge intrest. Maybe not 30k going over but possibly close to that.

Before anyone says Calzaghe Hopkins Calzaghe RJJ Hopkins and RJJ were not unbeaton fighters in there prime.

So in truth Mayweather and Pacquio are one of the main reasons these fans went over to watch Hatton fight as the evidence proves with the numbers for the other fights he has had in the USA.

Lennox Lewis fought for the greatest prize in boxing twice in a far bigger setting and only managed 6500. Calzaghe similar when he fought jones/Hopkins and lets not forgot the endless thousands upon thousands who headed out to see dear frank take on tyson twice.

I do understand what jaz is saying to a certain degree but he clearly has issues seperating raw passion and the odd 2-3 clowns he is refering too. No i wasnt at the weigh in but i think after at least 12hours air time, 36hours in and and around the strip im quite able to assess my own take on the fans that went over and as ive already mentioned you seemed to be in the small minority that didnt have a good time.

The support we give our sportsmen/women is second to none and a joy to behold. Just because a few bad eggs who`ve had one too many tizers decide to take it too far doesnt diminish the accomplishments of the large majority.

I was proud coming home from vegas. Not because of rickys performance or the fact that we outsung the fillipinos. But being able to see and hear those sort of emotions for a sport you love so dearly is something i`ll take to my grave with me!!

I had a great time, I just thought that a large number of Hatton's fans were tools. This whole raw passion thing is bollocks, I couldn't give a shit about fans singing songs or whatever else they want to do. But, boxing fans don't boo Shane Mosley so no one can hear what he's saying.

Calzaghe v Hopkins? Mate that fight wasnt even on ppv wasnt the biggest off fights far from it, Calzaghe RJJ are you for real hahahaha!!!

RJJ was nearly 40 years old and been knocked out numerous times how the hell can you comapre that to Hatton v Mayweather or Hattn v Pac is beyond me.

Lewis v Holyfield I would say is the quite a valid point but Lewis wasnt really taken as a fully fledged Brit If were being honest here.

Hatton had a decent career and brought a great crowd to Vegas on a couple of occasions, but you do over rate him quite a bit mate, will he be in the hall of fame Im not sure.

[killersheep]

LEAVE RICKY ALONE!!!!

[HattonTheHammer]

Lennox Lewis fought for the greatest prize in boxing twice in a far bigger setting and only managed 6500. Calzaghe similar when he fought jones/Hopkins and lets not forgot the endless thousands upon thousands who headed out to see dear frank take on tyson twice.

I do understand what jaz is saying to a certain degree but he clearly has issues seperating raw passion and the odd 2-3 clowns he is refering too. No i wasnt at the weigh in but i think after at least 12hours air time, 36hours in and and around the strip im quite able to assess my own take on the fans that went over and as ive already mentioned you seemed to be in the small minority that didnt have a good time.

The support we give our sportsmen/women is second to none and a joy to behold. Just because a few bad eggs who`ve had one too many tizers decide to take it too far doesnt diminish the accomplishments of the large majority.

I was proud coming home from vegas. Not because of rickys performance or the fact that we outsung the fillipinos. But being able to see and hear those sort of emotions for a sport you love so dearly is something i`ll take to my grave with me!!

I had a great time, I just thought that a large number of Hatton's fans were tools. This whole raw passion thing is bollocks, I couldn't give a shit about fans singing songs or whatever else they want to do. But, boxing fans don't boo Shane Mosley so no one can hear what he's saying.

Calzaghe v Hopkins? Mate that fight wasnt even on ppv wasnt the biggest off fights far from it, Calzaghe RJJ are you for real hahahaha!!!

RJJ was nearly 40 years old and been knocked out numerous times how the hell can you comapre that to Hatton v Mayweather or Hattn v Pac is beyond me.

Lewis v Holyfield I would say is the quite a valid point but Lewis wasnt really taken as a fully fledged Brit If were being honest here.

Hatton had a decent career and brought a great crowd to Vegas on a couple of occasions, but you do over rate him quite a bit mate, will he be in the hall of fame Im not sure.

So hatton shouldnt be considered a more popular boxer than calzaghe because he faced the greater opponents?

whats your point here

[generalbulldog]

A quick question for the author of this thread, which would be Hattonthehammer. Were you drunk when you started this thread? Because it does say permanently drunk under your screen name.