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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    He needed a good team to get his head right and keep him focused..

    You see in fights after a couple or rounds, his whole team is complaining to the ref.. Zab would fight for 1 minute, and because of his lack of focus and his team never keeping him focused either, he's probably spend 40 seconds of that minute thinking about the one bullsh!t low blow that the ref didn't see.. Waiting for another one so he can complain..

    He had the skills, and I think how he ended up fighting, he would have been better off at 140 where his lack of focus wouldn't have cost him fights so easily,
    BUTTTT I think he belonged at 147 and should have won there with what he had.. He had the potential, but if he had a team that put his mind on the right things coming into and during fights, he could have actually won there... If by round 3 your corner is telling you how bullsh!t all the fouls have been so far instead of telling you that your jab is owning the fight if you'll just keep using it, then you gotta get another corner..... He had a certain attitude of lack of focus, and he kept people around him to long with the same problem..

    therby, the waste of incredible tallent that is now Zab Judah...
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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Most of the time he starts strong. But for some reason, he gets discourage and tend lose his focus.

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Judah has so much talent that it's sad that he's not up there with the other top guys. I often forget that Judah was WW champ at one point.

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Well I agree with what most of you are saying, he has a total lack of focus. It's like he almost doesn't give the sport that has given him so much, any respect, because he doesn't seem to have any real dedication in trying to improve himself, and doesn't have the drive to make the most of his skills. It's like he's just skating along for paychecks these days.

    I mean, you know he's on a down slide when a shower door gets the best of him.

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    One right hand from Kostya Tszyu and it kept going down hill from there.
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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakey View Post
    One right hand from Kostya Tszyu and it kept going down hill from there.
    I should have known you would be the one to say that.

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Well I agree with what most of you are saying, he has a total lack of focus. It's like he almost doesn't give the sport that has given him so much, any respect, because he doesn't seem to have any real dedication in trying to improve himself, and doesn't have the drive to make the most of his skills. It's like he's just skating along for paychecks these days.

    I mean, you know he's on a down slide when a shower door gets the best of him.
    You know dare I say it, but I notice a little bit of fat around Cotto's midriff. He has a bit of a pokey tummy.

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    He's put on some poor performances too - That 10 rounder against that no name where he should have won way more comfortably - Although he probably won most rounds, it should have been easier work. He just doesn't make the adjustments.

    I agree with changing the team for the better...but is it a bit late in the day?

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Judah made one mistake, he believed his friends when they said he was great. He only wanted to be champion and didn't have the tools to defend the title. he was not a grown up and he stopped sticking to a game plan and when Kostya Tyzu showed him the manly art of self defense, he slid down a mudslide and his confidence went south but he never really put in 100 per cent to begin with and he never adapted to change.

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Those shower doors can really take it out of ya

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    ...cause he talks more about winning fights than acutally winning them.
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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    He is 35,000 years old after all, father time catches up with us all


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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    What the hell is up with that Cotto vid

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    Default Re: How the hell has Zab Judah fallen from grace so much ?

    Judahs career started to crumble once he fired Lou Duva and Ronnie Shields from his corner and replaced them with his father in order to keep the money in the family. Duva and shileds were a good influence and kept him grounded in the ring. At one point he was even pile drived by a tall fighter (wilfredo negron) after ducking and getting his head caught between the guys knees. With a cut on the forehead, he didnt go crazy and throw a chair or start choking his opponent. He went back to his corner, got his instructions came back out and beat Negron senseless.

    I think his first fight with his dad in the corner may have been David Sample. Judah knocks sample down and hits him while hes down. The second fight was Jan Bergman (Judah had to get off the canvas to win).. 3rd fight was Terron Millet (again had to get off the canvas to win), after that was the Kostya Tszyu fight... (no recap necessary)... The downward spiral only stopped briefly so he could beat Spinks in the rematch with a few secs to go. Throw in the few times he was robbed .. and his dad impersonated him on a teleconfrencing call and the picture of the circus is complete.

    How much can you gain from coming back to your corner after getting your butt kicked and have to dodge punches from dear old dad.. While hes screams "BAM BAM BANG BOOM POW" like john witherspoon? In the movie A Bronx Tale, Robert Deniro's character told his son the saddest thing in life, is wasted talent. Sad indeed.
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