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    Default Re: Should Bernard Hopkins be demoted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    He needs to stay where he's at. Demoting Hopkins just to fill a championship pretty much makes the winner of Dawson/Johnson a paper champion. He's only the champion cuz a better fighter than him was demoted. If that's the case why not just do that in every division.
    The thing is Hopkins has been inactive, Dawson fought Tarver (who is rated) twice & Johnson has fought twice.

    Hopkins is a better fighter but he hasn't done anything to prove he is the best light-heavy in the last year, he talked of going up to fight Adamek or fighting the Dawson/ Jonson 2 winner but they never panned out. Now the Jones rematch will come in the new year.

    He can't hold the division hostage all that time
    I'll give Dawson credit for the first Tarver fight. But not the 2nd. It was a complete waste of time. As for Johnson? He's been active. But his opponents were the below mediocre Daniel Judah and fellow senior citizen Aaron Norwood. How much credit does he really deserve for that? Hopkins next opponent is better than both of them.

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    Default Re: Should Bernard Hopkins be demoted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    He needs to stay where he's at. Demoting Hopkins just to fill a championship pretty much makes the winner of Dawson/Johnson a paper champion. He's only the champion cuz a better fighter than him was demoted. If that's the case why not just do that in every division.
    The thing is Hopkins has been inactive, Dawson fought Tarver (who is rated) twice & Johnson has fought twice.

    Hopkins is a better fighter but he hasn't done anything to prove he is the best light-heavy in the last year, he talked of going up to fight Adamek or fighting the Dawson/ Jonson 2 winner but they never panned out. Now the Jones rematch will come in the new year.

    He can't hold the division hostage all that time
    I'll give Dawson credit for the first Tarver fight. But not the 2nd. It was a complete waste of time. As for Johnson? He's been active. But his opponents were the below mediocre Daniel Judah and fellow senior citizen Aaron Norwood. How much credit does he really deserve for that? Hopkins next opponent is better than both of them.
    I agree the Traver rematch was a waste of time, but the guy was & still is world rated

    Norwood wasn't much but Judah was at least on par with Ornelas who struggled with the very limited Rubio. Plus the Dawson rematch will be Johnsons 3rd fight since last November, while Hopkins hasn't fought once in that time. Plus the fight before those 2 he arguably won!

    All this while Hopkins has sat on the sidelines, I agree he's an excellent fighter but you have to fight to retain your ranking...
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