Lyle whats going on with your so called mighty reds??

[OumaFan]

As for American comparisons I guarantee Donovan and Dempsey would do a better job than Voronin if played the same. Doesn't mean there necessarily big four players, neither is Voronin.

[OumaFan]

Babel should just move on. I'm not sure he'd be in great demand but even if it meant back to the Netherlands why not, if you can't get a start in this lineup?

[El Kabong]

As for American comparisons I guarantee Donovan and Dempsey would do a better job than Voronin if played the same. Doesn't mean there necessarily big four players, neither is Voronin.

I agree, but not being a big four player doesn't mean you're crap....that's all I'm saying. I think Voronin's issues are #1 Coaching and #2 Liverpool buying him, he's good at what he does but what he does, Liverpool doesn't use it.

Liverpool had Robbie Keane, nobody doubts his skill, but you saw how they used him...I think Rafa likes to play favorites with his players rather than play to win titles.

[OumaFan]

I never really understood the Keane buy. Didn't seem to really fit with what Benitez wants to do.

I mean you have Torres as the only true out and out striker with Gerrard behind him in the hole, Kuyt and Babel/Riera on the outside and Mascherano and Alonzo/Lucas behind them and Keane can play that role that Kuyt does but he's probably best as a striker in a 4-4-2, why not just buy an out and out winger instead?

For whatever reason I didn't really see Liverpool much when Keane was there (seemed like when I did see them he was on the bench) but I assume he was playing a similar role to what Kuyt does.

[OumaFan]

haha Ryan Babel just saved Benitez, brilliant goal.

[OumaFan]

Oh that was cruel Sorry.

[El Kabong]

What the fuck is Benitez's end game anyway?!?!?? If he had any players in the world and could do anything he wanted what formation would he run, what players would he have and who would he bring off the bench I simply for the life of me do not know!!! Most managers have a SYSTEM, they have a set of core beliefs that if they do they WILL WIN.

For example, in American Football, Coach Paul Johnson of Georgia Tech. I know what he wants to do with his team, efficient yet time consuming option offense and a stout defense that gets 3 and outs. He wants a true running back as the "A Back" (the Fullback in the double wing formation) and he wants speedsters on the wings, he also needs a big fullback for blocking purposes, but he comes in as a substitute. I know exactly how Roy Williams wants to run UNC basketball as well. But for the life of me, I can't figure Benitez out....they never seem to have a plan, it just sort of comes to them as they are playing.

In the end, the American owners aren't the guys keeping Liverpool from winning, it's Benitez and his meddling with the fucking lineups!!!