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    Default Re: Mayweather. NO win situation.

    Floyd got total credit for his wins against everyone except this past bullshit with marquez
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    There are a lot of people who down PBF for fighting Hatton. To me that was his most meaningful above 135. JMM small but at the same time it's not like PBF does that all the time and JMM is top 5 P4P.

    Also lets be real i love JMM but he wouldn't have beat an 130lb PBF but

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boxer View Post
    There are a lot of people who down PBF for fighting Hatton. To me that was his most meaningful above 135. JMM small but at the same time it's not like PBF does that all the time and JMM is top 5 P4P.

    Also lets be real i love JMM but he wouldn't have beat an 130lb PBF but

    Its not about whether he'd have beat him, but floyd isnt 120-107 better than a well conditioned marquez without that huge weight advantage. And it seems that just like FLoyd, most of his fans believe that if people arent saying

    "hey floyd that was the greatest performance ever until your next fight and will you please aim for my left nostril when you skeet" then you must be a hater or jealous.
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    You must be kidding?

    Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    You must be kidding?

    Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.

    I'll be the first to say that if he fights paul williams its not that impressive...I still dont think he's ready for a boxer like floyd. Quintana schooled him. And until Paul develops a "real" jab floyd will stay low and beat him.
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    Default Re: Mayweather. NO win situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    You must be kidding?

    Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.
    No you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.
    PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
    Shane will be become old all of a sudden
    Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
    Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
    Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
    Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.

    This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.

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    Default Re: Mayweather. NO win situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Boxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    You must be kidding?

    Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.
    No you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.
    PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
    Shane will be become old all of a sudden
    Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
    Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
    Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
    Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.

    This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
    First, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.

    Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.

    Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 11-09-2009 at 03:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Mayweather. NO win situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Boxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    You must be kidding?

    Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.
    No you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.
    PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
    Shane will be become old all of a sudden
    Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
    Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
    Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
    Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.

    This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
    First, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.

    Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.

    Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.
    Very well said

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    Default Re: Mayweather. NO win situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Boxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    You must be kidding?

    Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.
    No you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.
    PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
    Shane will be become old all of a sudden
    Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
    Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
    Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
    Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.

    This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
    First, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.

    Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.

    Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.

    I never said that other fighters don't get scruntized. Yes you could make those arguments about PAC but people never do. Thats my whole point. What you said was correct but people don't make those points about PAC.

    I wasn't calling PAC a blown up feather weight. What i was doing is saying that what others will call him. Yes i do think it is odd that PAC is fighting cotto before PBF. PBF should have fought Cotto by now but expect those fight to coming soon. PBF first wealter weight fight was late 2005. he retired in late 2007 early 2008 so lates stop with the 5 year thing that everyone keeps throwing around. 5 years would be late 2005 to late 2010. even if PBF hadn't of retired it hasn't been 5 years yet.

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