Don King was the real winner of Haye v Valuev

**Fatsandman** · 11-07-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG H

So am I mate, my point was, that whomever won most rounds DESERVED to win and anything else about Champions/Challengers/Venues/Crooked promoters should be irrelevant if the guy that won most rounds got the verdict. If you think Valuev won more rounds then fair enough.

Well then I suppose it all depends on who we both thought won that fight. I thought Valuev won it by 3 rounds simply by Hayes reluctance to engage (and back up his big pre-fight talk) for much of the fight.

If thats the criteria then maybe my thoughts of dirty dealings may be off the mark.. But I stick by my impressions...

Cheers BH

**BIG H** · 11-07-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatsandman

Well then I suppose it all depends on who we both thought won that fight. I thought Valuev won it by 3 rounds simply by Hayes reluctance to engage (and back up his big pre-fight talk) for much of the fight.

If thats the criteria then maybe my thoughts of dirty dealings may be off the mark.. But I stick by my impressions...

Cheers BH

If you think Valuev won by 3 rounds then you have a right to think that the fix was in. I just can't see that scoring, coz much as I don't rate Haye, Valuev was horrendous and just plodded forward like a mummy and swatted thin air all night. Was still very close though and I would have had no problem with 114-114 or 115-113 either way.

**Fatsandman** · 11-07-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG H

If you think Valuev won by 3 rounds then you have a right to think that the fix was in. .

Not sure about 'fix'. Maybe just 'influence'

**Fatsandman** · 11-07-2009 11:01 PM

It may not have been a robbery like Lewis v Holyfield but does anyone doubt that King's 'influence' came into play that night?

Same face, same result. King wins again..

And don't get me started on the Kennedy assassination (only kiddin!)

**porkypara** · 11-08-2009 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Fatsandman

It may not have been a robbery like Lewis v Holyfield but does anyone doubt that King's 'influence' came into play that night?

Same face, same result. King wins again..

And don't get me started on the Kennedy assassination (only kiddin!)

If that was the case why did King not FIX Valuev's fight with Holyfield who is still the biggest name in the division even if he is 10 years past his best.?