Valuev Won That Fight!

[Fenster]

mainly saying cause Fenster was already making excuses for Haye, saying that if he lost to Valuev it was cause he was too small, now he barely beat Valuev, so wanna know what excuse he's gonna give Haye when he gets beat by the Klitschko's

That wasn't an excuse it was a fact.

Anyone that can't understand this probably needs to kill themselves. Serious. You can't get much thicker.

oh i'm not getting into this BS with your fanyboy ass again...

I'm a fanboy for stating the obvious?

Let me help you, because I think your hatred for Haye is making you look dumber than you really are.

Ignore the fact that Valuev was fighting Haye (clearly a man you love) and imagine it was Adamek.

You still following...

Now, if Valuev beat Adamek would it be because he is MUCH bigger than him or much better?

[Dadi Astthorsson]

That's it. You don't fight inside with Valuev because of what he IS. It has nothing to do with his ability.

[smashup]

Valuev landed 1 clean punch that i can remember...

Haye landed about 7

Haye won

[BIG H]

Valuev landed 1 clean punch that i can remember...

Haye landed about 7

Haye won

That is about all we need to say about the fight and completely correct

[ElTerribleMorales]

That wasn't an excuse it was a fact.

Anyone that can't understand this probably needs to kill themselves. Serious. You can't get much thicker.

oh i'm not getting into this BS with your fanyboy ass again...

I'm a fanboy for stating the obvious?

Let me help you, because I think your hatred for Haye is making you look dumber than you really are.

Ignore the fact that Valuev was fighting Haye (clearly a man you love) and imagine it was Adamek.

You still following...

Now, if Valuev beat Adamek would it be because he is MUCH bigger than him or much better?

yea i'm clearly a Valuev fan although i said that he's just as shitty as Haye, you're getting as bad and Xaduboxer with your blind love for Haye, and the difference between Haye and Adamek is that Adamek started as a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT, and no if by some miracle Adamek lost to Haye i wouldn't be bitching and moaning and making excuses of him being too small, he already beat the hell out of a much bigger (although past his best) Golota, this isn't like the smaller weights where 10 lbs really make that much difference, i saw the fight and Haye won it, i'm not disputing it, i had him winning 116-112, but he clearly didn't do SHIT to prove he is anything special at HW, i felt Ruiz beat him both times, Holyfield beat him, and then the only other guy to legitimately get the nod Chagaev, all of them shorter than 6'4, so all of them in Haye's size range, so it never really had jack shit to do with size, only person on here too retarded to decipher that is you

[Fenster]

oh i'm not getting into this BS with your fanyboy ass again...

I'm a fanboy for stating the obvious?

Let me help you, because I think your hatred for Haye is making you look dumber than you really are.

Ignore the fact that Valuev was fighting Haye (clearly a man you love) and imagine it was Adamek.

You still following...

Now, if Valuev beat Adamek would it be because he is MUCH bigger than him or much better?

yea i'm clearly a Valuev fan although i said that he's just as shitty as Haye, you're getting as bad and Xaduboxer with your blind love for Haye, and the difference between Haye and Adamek is that Adamek started as a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT, and no if by some miracle Adamek lost to Haye i wouldn't be bitching and moaning and making excuses of him being too small, he already beat the hell out of a much bigger (although past his best) Golota, this isn't like the smaller weights where 10 lbs really make that much difference, i saw the fight and Haye won it, i'm not disputing it, i had him winning 116-112, but he clearly didn't do SHIT to prove he is anything special at HW, i felt Ruiz beat him both times, Holyfield beat him, and then the only other guy to legitimately get the nod Chagaev, all of them shorter than 6'4, so all of them in Haye's size range, so it never really had jack shit to do with size, only person on here too retarded to decipher that is you

Who said you're a Valuev fan?

Why are you talking about Haye vs Adamek?

OK I'm a retard because I think Valuev has a size advantage over his opponents ().

[ElTerribleMorales]

I'm a fanboy for stating the obvious?

Let me help you, because I think your hatred for Haye is making you look dumber than you really are.

Ignore the fact that Valuev was fighting Haye (clearly a man you love) and imagine it was Adamek.

You still following...

Now, if Valuev beat Adamek would it be because he is MUCH bigger than him or much better?

yea i'm clearly a Valuev fan although i said that he's just as shitty as Haye, you're getting as bad and Xaduboxer with your blind love for Haye, and the difference between Haye and Adamek is that Adamek started as a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT, and no if by some miracle Adamek lost to Haye i wouldn't be bitching and moaning and making excuses of him being too small, he already beat the hell out of a much bigger (although past his best) Golota, this isn't like the smaller weights where 10 lbs really make that much difference, i saw the fight and Haye won it, i'm not disputing it, i had him winning 116-112, but he clearly didn't do SHIT to prove he is anything special at HW, i felt Ruiz beat him both times, Holyfield beat him, and then the only other guy to legitimately get the nod Chagaev, all of them shorter than 6'4, so all of them in Haye's size range, so it never really had jack shit to do with size, only person on here too retarded to decipher that is you

Who said you're a Valuev fan?

Why are you talking about Haye vs Adamek?

OK I'm a retard because I think Valuev has a size advantage over his opponents ().

[Mark TKO]

how do you fight a guy that big ? with caution - exactly how he did

Never thought he would get decision as didnt do enough to take title in my book - though the more effective work was done by Haye.

Do wish he had gone for it more - watched it in pub and was a bit pissed so want to see replay of when he tagged Valuev in last round. was he actually hurt ??


Anyway he's got the title .

As already said many times :-

Punchers chance against Wlad

Vitali will kill him

[rjj tszyu]

how do you fight a guy that big ? with caution - exactly how he did

Never thought he would get decision as didnt do enough to take title in my book - though the more effective work was done by Haye.

Do wish he had gone for it more - watched it in pub and was a bit pissed so want to see replay of when he tagged Valuev in last round. was he actually hurt ??


Anyway he's got the title .

As already said many times :-

Punchers chance against Wlad

Vitali will kill him

I think he has more than a punchers chance with Wlad. He is way faster than anyone Wlad has fought including Byrd, and Haye IMO hits damned hard and WILL land on Wlad before Wlad lands on him.

I might be way off with my prediction but I think Haye takes Wlad but agree he struggles with Vitali, then again how old is Vitali now? I think he's 38, that is getting on in anyone's book and I see Haye fighting Ruiz and Holyfield at least before he moves onto the Klits which would leave Vitali at 40 and Haye in his prime.

To be honest more than anything I am glad that finally the glamour division is being talked about by people on the streets, whether you like him or not the reason is David Haye and now he has the potential to be a star in the calibre of a Lennox Lewis (star not boxer), I think he will take on 4 or 5 beatable challengers before he fights either Klit so he can make himself a shit load of money whatever the outcome when he does fight them.

[Dadi Astthorsson]

To be honest more than anything I am glad that finally the glamour division is being talked about by people on the streets, whether you like him or not the reason is David Haye and now he has the potential to be a star in the calibre of a Lennox Lewis (star not boxer), I think he will take on 4 or 5 beatable challengers before he fights either Klit so he can make himself a shit load of money whatever the outcome when he does fight them.

I don't generally like a lot of histrionics and don't really like the heavyweights that much, but a competitive and exciting heavyweight division is good for boxing as a whole. Even the image of competitiveness.

The Klitschkos are also incredibly bland characters:

"He is good fi'ter, but I train very hard for dis fight."

Rinse, dry and repeat.

Wladimir looks great when the going is good, but the slightest adversity and he folds like an accordion. As recently as the Ibragimov fight he was deadly scared to take any risks (and that did have a lot to do with Ibragimov's southpaw stance). If you hit Wlad, he will go down. The only question is if Haye can take advantage. When he hurt Valuev he ran in and smothered himself.

The thing about Haye is that he has the potential to beat ANYONE, but also the potential to lose to anyone. Even if he beats both Klitschkos (big if) he's just as likely to lose the title to an ordinary fighter soon after. He's dangerous because he's got balls, but that's also his vulnerability. Hopefully he will mature enough to be a more sensible risk-taker in the future (I cringed every time he switched to southpaw).

I'm not a Haye fan in particular, but I'd rather have him in the mix than not.