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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    I dont know.Dawson does not escalate to the next level on a dime,when needed quickly.He still coasts and gets to complacent.Kessler is a very solid straight hitter and would himself be on another level in with Dawson.I'd call it a toss up but I just think Dawson is reachable,does this noticable resetting pattern with his feetLeft hooks are there to land,especially over 2nd part of fight.He did a great job early of neutalizing Johnson right hand and sliding off,Kess has a truer straight right hand with maybe a touch more on it.Flip a coin but I dont think its a forgone conclussion that Dawson wins.Think he still has work to do,needs to stoke his internal fire.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    I would pick Dawson to beat Kessler.

    Dawson is just as good as Kessler fundamentally but is faster and more atheltic.

    His ability to put fast combinations together is impressive and against Kessler he would use that to keep Kessler on the defensive.

    Kessler does have a good chance in this fight though based on his very solid jab and the power in his right hand that would possibly cause Dawsons problems. Dawson does seem to lose focus half way through his fights and Kessler would probably be able to take advantage of that also.

    I say a 8-4 decision for Dawson.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    any talk of kessler's lefthook is a moot point because he has a crappy slapping lefthook.

    anyway, dawson in his adamek form would win a wide decision. he's just slightly more versatile.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    no way would dawson beat kessler imo - kessler is to good and would of been one of the first people to beat johnson easily and widely, possible taking him out

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    No no no Kessler would dismantle Dawson. Dawson's trainer needs to teach him something called agression. Dawson will never be a big draw because he has NO killer instinct, and he's terribly lazy! Kessler is a much much better boxer than Johnson ever thought about being, so you wouldn't see Dawson landing those jabs so easy. Im just waiting for Dawson to get owned by Hopkins, I wish they would set that up next. Hopkins would put Dawson in a dog fight which he desperatly needs to get him out of the "most boring champion" category. But anyway Kessler beats dawson IMO.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    No no no Kessler would dismantle Dawson. Dawson's trainer needs to teach him something called agression. Dawson will never be a big draw because he has NO killer instinct, and he's terribly lazy! Kessler is a much much better boxer than Johnson ever thought about being, so you wouldn't see Dawson landing those jabs so easy. Im just waiting for Dawson to get owned by Hopkins, I wish they would set that up next. Hopkins would put Dawson in a dog fight which he desperatly needs to get him out of the "most boring champion" category. But anyway Kessler beats dawson IMO.
    I think you're definitely underestimating Johnson. Maybe to discredit Dawson's wins. Dawson has a better resume than Kessler. What about Adamek or Tarver? Its not by luck that Dawson keeps beating the best around light heavy. He's 5-0 against the great in that category. BTW, Dawson offered BHop a fight before he signed the Johnson fight and BHop turned it down. He said Dawson wasn't a big enough fight but I guess Enrique Ornelas, who he chose instead, is.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Really by choosing Ornelas he chose a still much larger draw in Jones Jr.They see the writing on the wall and wanna make that huge finale though the final negotions may be more exciting than the fight itself.I'd personally love Dawson and Hopkins over that one but in fairness Dawsons drawing power has still to reach big time status.He has time.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    No no no Kessler would dismantle Dawson. Dawson's trainer needs to teach him something called agression. Dawson will never be a big draw because he has NO killer instinct, and he's terribly lazy! Kessler is a much much better boxer than Johnson ever thought about being, so you wouldn't see Dawson landing those jabs so easy. Im just waiting for Dawson to get owned by Hopkins, I wish they would set that up next. Hopkins would put Dawson in a dog fight which he desperatly needs to get him out of the "most boring champion" category. But anyway Kessler beats dawson IMO.
    I think you're definitely underestimating Johnson. Maybe to discredit Dawson's wins. Dawson has a better resume than Kessler. What about Adamek or Tarver? Its not by luck that Dawson keeps beating the best around light heavy. He's 5-0 against the great in that category. BTW, Dawson offered BHop a fight before he signed the Johnson fight and BHop turned it down. He said Dawson wasn't a big enough fight but I guess Enrique Ornelas, who he chose instead, is.
    Hopkins is fighting Ornelas as a tune up for a Jones fight.

    Jones is twice the draw Dawson is.

    Lets not forget that Hopkins is donating the money he earns for the Ornelas fight to charity.

    Bhop was actually considering the winner of Dawson/Johnson but Jones started calling Hopkins out so he took that fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    No no no Kessler would dismantle Dawson. Dawson's trainer needs to teach him something called agression. Dawson will never be a big draw because he has NO killer instinct, and he's terribly lazy! Kessler is a much much better boxer than Johnson ever thought about being, so you wouldn't see Dawson landing those jabs so easy. Im just waiting for Dawson to get owned by Hopkins, I wish they would set that up next. Hopkins would put Dawson in a dog fight which he desperatly needs to get him out of the "most boring champion" category. But anyway Kessler beats dawson IMO.
    I think you're definitely underestimating Johnson. Maybe to discredit Dawson's wins. Dawson has a better resume than Kessler. What about Adamek or Tarver? Its not by luck that Dawson keeps beating the best around light heavy. He's 5-0 against the great in that category. BTW, Dawson offered BHop a fight before he signed the Johnson fight and BHop turned it down. He said Dawson wasn't a big enough fight but I guess Enrique Ornelas, who he chose instead, is.
    Exactly who has Mikkel Kessler beaten who's really that good ? i mean his best win is probably Anthony Mundine, and that was a tough close fight. Which was a good win but who else really ? Librado Andrade ? i agree Mikkel Kessler is a good fighter, but i feel he is a bit overrated.

    We don't really know how good he is he's still a bit unproven IMO, he was beaten handily by Joe Calzaghe. And he hasn't fought any notable fighter since Joe Calzaghe, im not saying he's fought all tomato can's, but we don't really know how good he is yet.

    Atleast Chad Dawson has beaten a legit top world class fighter, like Tomasz Adamek. And despite his other 3 best wins, being against older fighters. There still 3 good wins and Antonio Tarver was coming off a real good performance, and Glen Johnson had no signs of slowing down. And Eric Harding was still considered a good fighter.

    And remember the last time Glen Johnson was beaten so handily, was probably against Bernard Hopkins in 1997. Everyone wanted to see Chad Dawson beat Glen Johnson more convincingly in the rematch, and he did so top marks to him.

    And i know the rematch with Antonio Tarver was a waste a time, but its still two good wins over a good fighter, and remember Antonio Tarver isn't that old in terms of proffessional fighting, because he was a late starter.
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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Yeah, Dawson is the real deal. I get the feeling people are waiting for the next RJJ and therefore are never going to be satisfied with Dawson's ability and wins. Thats too high of a bar. Kessler is technical and has good timing so I don't want to make it out to be a one sided fight. But I see Dawson winning this fight rather comfortably. Dawson is not just fast and technical but he is athletic and a sothpaw is not the greatest choice opponent to have with those attributes.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    any talk of kessler's lefthook is a moot point because he has a crappy slapping lefthook.

    anyway, dawson in his adamek form would win a wide decision. he's just slightly more versatile.
    Kessler doesn't have a left hook? huh? Did you watch the Andrade fight?

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Kessler would outwork Dawson quite easily. Dawson takes so much time off in his fights throwing only intermittently. Kessler might even knock him out. Kessler is a much more assured and and all round fighter for me. Dawson either attacks or defends, he seems to have no fluidity between those two things. Kessler would take advantage of Dawsons flaws.

    Dawson reminds me of Taylor from a few years back, all it will take is the right opponent to bust him up and Kessler would be one to do it.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Kessler would outwork Dawson quite easily. Dawson takes so much time off in his fights throwing only intermittently. Kessler might even knock him out. Kessler is a much more assured and and all round fighter for me. Dawson either attacks or defends, he seems to have no fluidity between those two things. Kessler would take advantage of Dawsons flaws.

    Dawson reminds me of Taylor from a few years back, all it will take is the right opponent to bust him up and Kessler would be one to do it.
    dawson doesn't need to be a PBF to beat someone like kessler. that's what some of you don't get. kessler ain't a fucking great technician like some of you make him out to be. he's a typical stand-up euro fighter with a very basic skillset. he has zero inside game for crying out loud.

    kessler is so fucking overrated it's not even funny. i've heard people comparing him to juan manuel marquez ffs. jmm's more dynamic than kessler will ever be despite being a very flawed fighter himself.

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by sumkalambay View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Kessler would outwork Dawson quite easily. Dawson takes so much time off in his fights throwing only intermittently. Kessler might even knock him out. Kessler is a much more assured and and all round fighter for me. Dawson either attacks or defends, he seems to have no fluidity between those two things. Kessler would take advantage of Dawsons flaws.

    Dawson reminds me of Taylor from a few years back, all it will take is the right opponent to bust him up and Kessler would be one to do it.
    dawson doesn't need to be a PBF to beat someone like kessler. that's what some of you don't get. kessler ain't a fucking great technician like some of you make him out to be. he's a typical stand-up euro fighter with a very basic skillset. he has zero inside game for crying out loud.

    kessler is so fucking overrated it's not even funny. i've heard people comparing him to juan manuel marquez ffs. jmm's more dynamic than kessler will ever be despite being a very flawed fighter himself.
    Your so f*cking stupid its almost worth crying over

    WHO the hell on this site has compared the ultra effective 168pound technician mikkel kessler to the super fast, hard hitting 130pound juan manuel marquez?

    seriously...out them, they are as stupid and retarded as you are!!
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    Default Re: Dawson would beat Kessler

    Dawson is not mentally solid enough if you ask me, very often he gets gun shy and basically stop to press the action, against a murderous puncher like Kessler, you just can't do that. I think that the first 4-5 rounds would be competitive and then it would be a downfall to hell for Dawson.
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