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    Default Re: Haye is everywhere!!

    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.
    That ridiculous statement will be rubbished when he KO's Ruiz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.

    Well we will soon find out if he is at the same level as John Ruiz and I would bet you any money you want he makes Ruiz look silly.

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    Bilbo it was Hayes 3rd fight at Heavyweight...

    He was up for a tear up with Wlad and instead was "Forced" into a Giant.

    Huge Risk as he could have just fought a few more Barrets then stepped it up.

    With that it mind i'm baffled your not remotely impressed.

    Valuev will make anyone look shit and Haye did what he needed to do and for once used his loaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.
    So going off your theory, that Mayweather is around about the same level as Cory Spinks and is inferior to Miguel Cotto, Kosta Tszyu and Joshua Clottey as they all beat Zab Judah in better fashion

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.
    So going off your theory, that Mayweather is around about the same level as Cory Spinks and is inferior to Miguel Cotto, Kosta Tszyu and Joshua Clottey as they all beat Zab Judah in better fashion
    Mayweather beat Judah much better than Spinks did. Spinks was ko'd in the second fight and only barely survived the 12th round in the first.

    As for Floyd against Cotto, Tszyu and Clottey we wouldn't know because Floyd doesn't fight people in the same weight class as him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.
    So going off your theory, that Mayweather is around about the same level as Cory Spinks and is inferior to Miguel Cotto, Kosta Tszyu and Joshua Clottey as they all beat Zab Judah in better fashion
    Mayweather beat Judah much better than Spinks did. Spinks was ko'd in the second fight and only barely survived the 12th round in the first.

    As for Floyd against Cotto, Tszyu and Clottey we wouldn't know because Floyd doesn't fight people in the same weight class as him.
    Lol Haye had Valuev wobbled in the 12th aswell , something Ruiz Chagaev or Holyfield didnt do so does that not count in your theory??

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    He's been all over BBC world for the past 3 days. I don't quite get it, I had never imagined it as being a megafight. It certainly didn't look like a megafight of note.

    I've watched the fight properly now and think Haye did enough to win, but it was a stinking bore. Haye/Wlad....who will dare throw a punch....yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    He's been all over BBC world for the past 3 days. I don't quite get it, I had never imagined it as being a megafight. It certainly didn't look like a megafight of note.

    I've watched the fight properly now and think Haye did enough to win, but it was a stinking bore. Haye/Wlad....who will dare throw a punch....yawn.

    I told a mate a week before this fight that due to the intrigue surrounding valuev this would be huge for haye if he were to come away with a win

    He`ll make his millions when he gets home thats for sure, us lot on here know he beat the weakest heavyweight of the 3. But the media outlets are having a field day informing everyone how a born and bred brit beat a 7foot 2 monster!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    He's been all over BBC world for the past 3 days. I don't quite get it, I had never imagined it as being a megafight. It certainly didn't look like a megafight of note.

    I've watched the fight properly now and think Haye did enough to win, but it was a stinking bore. Haye/Wlad....who will dare throw a punch....yawn.

    I told a mate a week before this fight that due to the intrigue surrounding valuev this would be huge for haye if he were to come away with a win

    He`ll make his millions when he gets home thats for sure, us lot on here know he beat the weakest heavyweight of the 3. But the media outlets are having a field day informing everyone how a born and bred brit beat a 7foot 2 monster!!
    The BBC is telling everyone Haye is THE Heavyweight champ of the world. Which is true, but it also disregards the fact that there are two better fighters than him with better records who are proven champions also. Haye is a paper belt holder, it isn't as significant as the BBC are making out. I'm genuinely pleased that Haye did well, but the media is going a tad over the top here.

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    Default Re: Haye is everywhere!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I find it laughable really. Holyfield, Ruiz and Chagaev all beat Valuev as well or better than Haye.

    Valuev has only fought four fighters of any note, lost to all and Haye probably did the worst.

    All he demonstrated is he's roughly at the same level as an almost 50 year old Evander and John Ruiz.
    I agree with your statement. I definitely thought Holyfield beat Valuev by a much greater margin then Haye.

    However, I think Haye is good for boxing, so in that respect, I am happy for his win.

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