Who else could replicate Haye's performance?

[Gandalf]

Any smart boxer with a bit of speed and ability to get in and out quickly can beat Valuev. Valuev is pretty awful. He's a big man and he tries his best with what he's got, but it is very limited. I thought Chagaev did it far more impressively than Haye too.

[HattonTheHammer]

Any smart boxer with a bit of speed and ability to get in and out quickly can beat Valuev. Valuev is pretty awful. He's a big man and he tries his best with what he's got, but it is very limited. I thought Chagaev did it far more impressively than Haye too.

So 98% of those that have thought him have been complete uneducated no marks?

[Kev]

Any smart boxer with a bit of speed and ability to get in and out quickly can beat Valuev. Valuev is pretty awful. He's a big man and he tries his best with what he's got, but it is very limited. I thought Chagaev did it far more impressively than Haye too.

So 98% of those that have thought him have been complete uneducated no marks?

haha a great posting.

go boxrec his record hammer and tell me how many opponents he's fought who wern't complete tomato cans.

I count 4.

And he lost to all of them

[HattonTheHammer]

Any smart boxer with a bit of speed and ability to get in and out quickly can beat Valuev. Valuev is pretty awful. He's a big man and he tries his best with what he's got, but it is very limited. I thought Chagaev did it far more impressively than Haye too.

So 98% of those that have thought him have been complete uneducated no marks?

haha a great posting.

go boxrec his record hammer and tell me how many opponents he's fought who wern't complete tomato cans.

I count 4.

And he lost to all of them

You could also make the exact same argument for either klitschko

Are we now led to believe that due to the poor level of opposition out there they should also be disregarded as poor fighters?

[Gandalf]

Any smart boxer with a bit of speed and ability to get in and out quickly can beat Valuev. Valuev is pretty awful. He's a big man and he tries his best with what he's got, but it is very limited. I thought Chagaev did it far more impressively than Haye too.

So 98% of those that have thought him have been complete uneducated no marks?

haha a great posting.

go boxrec his record hammer and tell me how many opponents he's fought who wern't complete tomato cans.

I count 4.

And he lost to all of them

This is true, Valuev isn't all that good. He's just a problem because of unusual height and girth. If you are fast enough to let him swing at air or make him chase you around the ring whilst unloading a punch or two each round then you have him.