
Originally Posted by
paddy448
once again bilbo u make me believe my own thoughts are bullshit cause u make so much senese,lol, too be honest with u i didnt see the ruiz fight i only saw the holyfield fight, and yeah hoyfield made it look a better fight than haye but he didnt make valuev miss like like haye did. can i ask u who u thought won the fight haye vs valuev and why
I think Haye just about deserved to win. But I think both John Ruiz in their first fight and Evander Holyfield beat him more impressively. Oh and Chagaev of course.
When a fighter loses to John Ruiz, Ruslan Chagaev and an almost 50 old Holyfield you know he ain't up to much.
Haye performed about as well as a nearly 50 Evander and John Ruiz, one of the maligned and mediocre champs in recent years.
All Haye proved was that he's not even close to being one of the top players in the division.
If he fights a Klitschko he loses as uneventfully and routinely as Rahman, Brock, Arreola, Chagaev etc did before him.
He brings nothing new to the table apart from a big mouth.
Odlanier Solis will be a bigger threat to the top guys than Haye. Even Thomas Adamek has as much chance of making an impression imo.
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