I can't see Haye beating Wladimir moreso now then ever before.

[Wayne]

What Wlad does well will negate everything Haye did vs Valuev...great jab, great athletic ability, big power, and good defense.

Broken hand or not Haye cannot fight that way and beat Wladimir, it's not going to happen. As far as punch output, Haye has never impressed in that area

Lyle, how about that Lamon Brewster? What is he, 6'2 220-230?

Wlad gon get knocked out

And before you say but Wlad destroyed him in the rematch, Im happy with that, I'd take Haye splatting him then getting splatted in return just to hear you explain the first fight away

The Wlad who fought Lamon Brewster the first time has been completely revamped by Emmanuel Steward. Haye won't step in the ring against a guy he can just throw bombs at. And remember, Brewster had to drag himself off the canvas twice before Klitschko gassed out. If Haye takes those kinds of punches flush I don't think he survives. Brewster had a monster of a chin in that fight. Hell, if that Brewster fought Haye he'd kill David.

[HattonTheHammer]

What Wlad does well will negate everything Haye did vs Valuev...great jab, great athletic ability, big power, and good defense.

Broken hand or not Haye cannot fight that way and beat Wladimir, it's not going to happen. As far as punch output, Haye has never impressed in that area

Lyle, how about that Lamon Brewster? What is he, 6'2 220-230?

Wlad gon get knocked out

And before you say but Wlad destroyed him in the rematch, Im happy with that, I'd take Haye splatting him then getting splatted in return just to hear you explain the first fight away

The Wlad who fought Lamon Brewster the first time has been completely revamped by Emmanuel Steward. Haye won't step in the ring against a guy he can just throw bombs at. And remember, Brewster had to drag himself off the canvas twice before Klitschko gassed out. If Haye takes those kinds of punches flush I don't think he survives. Brewster had a monster of a chin in that fight. Hell, if that Brewster fought Haye he'd kill David.

Your seriously over emphasising lamont brewster here

Any decent heavy including the likes of peter and ibraghimov could take brewster out if they wanted to.

Throw vitali out of the equasion here, he`d kill haye 365 days a year. I genuinely think wladmir could be one of those guys who gets intimidated and allows the occasion to get the best of him. Haye in my opinion boxes a very clever fight which frustrates wlad leading to him falling into hayes trap and getting sparked out!

[Memphis]

Anyone else want to take my post as something other than a dig at Lyle?

[Wayne]

Lyle, how about that Lamon Brewster? What is he, 6'2 220-230?

Wlad gon get knocked out

And before you say but Wlad destroyed him in the rematch, Im happy with that, I'd take Haye splatting him then getting splatted in return just to hear you explain the first fight away

The Wlad who fought Lamon Brewster the first time has been completely revamped by Emmanuel Steward. Haye won't step in the ring against a guy he can just throw bombs at. And remember, Brewster had to drag himself off the canvas twice before Klitschko gassed out. If Haye takes those kinds of punches flush I don't think he survives. Brewster had a monster of a chin in that fight. Hell, if that Brewster fought Haye he'd kill David.

Your seriously over emphasising lamont brewster here

Any decent heavy including the likes of peter and ibraghimov could take brewster out if they wanted to.

Throw vitali out of the equasion here, he`d kill haye 365 days a year. I genuinely think wladmir could be one of those guys who gets intimidated and allows the occasion to get the best of him. Haye in my opinion boxes a very clever fight which frustrates wlad leading to him falling into hayes trap and getting sparked out!

I think that fight was Brewster's peak. He doesn't have that kind of will now (but still has a helluva chin). I don't see Haye getting close to Klitschko unless Wlad lets him in and he just doesn't fight that way anymore.

On that night Peter-Brewster would have been very interesting as Peter can throw bombs all night and Brewster soaked up a helluva lot of punishment. I think Peter-Brewster would have looked similar to Golota-Brewster over the course of 7-8 rounds with Peter losing and Ibragimov would have no chance without the ability to bang. Brewster was a Tasmanian Devil and there was just no getting away from him.

[El Kabong]

I think that fight was Brewster's peak. He doesn't have that kind of will now (but still has a helluva chin). I don't see Haye getting close to Klitschko unless Wlad lets him in and he just doesn't fight that way anymore.

What Brewster did to Wladimir was apply CONSTANT PRESSURE, David Haye's style doesn't allow for that, he's an in and out throwing 1 or 2 punches at a time. When Brewster wasn't applying pressure Wlad was trying to chase him down.....now'a'days Wladimir fights (as I am sure all of you have noticed) with patience, he fights at the pace he is comfortable with and he usually sets the pace with his jab.

Since that loss Wlad has done it all, he's gotten up from knockdowns to win, he's KO'd fighters early, KO'd them late, won decisions, and really other than the Peter and Thompson fights he hasn't been bothered, he's very relaxed in the ring but he does his job...imagine the confidence knowing you could EASILY win a UD vs pretty much anyone in the division right now with 1 punch used over and over again.