HBO`s calling of dawson-johnson II

[amat]

I thought the commentary was so biased in favor of Dawson I was getting a little queezy, but Dawson fought pretty much the same fight he had to fight. That's the tagline of David Haye's fight right Hammer? Johnson was much more capable, had Dawson fought any differently it would have been a repeat of the first fight (which I scored for Johnson). Hammer, I don't know how you put together a 115-113 scorecard but it was 118-111 at the very most for Johnson. Round 4, maybe 5 and 11.

[The Fightfan]

I am just thankful I am not the only one who sees the insane bias in HBO's commentating. I thought there was something wrong with me for a while but now I can see I am not alone. I am just waiting for this weekend between Pac and Cotto to see who's nuts will be resting on Lampley's lips.

[HattonTheHammer]

I thought the commentary was so biased in favor of Dawson I was getting a little queezy, but Dawson fought pretty much the same fight he had to fight. That's the tagline of David Haye's fight right Hammer? Johnson was much more capable, had Dawson fought any differently it would have been a repeat of the first fight (which I scored for Johnson). Hammer, I don't know how you put together a 115-113 scorecard but it was 118-111 at the very most for Johnson. Round 4, maybe 5 and 11.

If i wanna score every single round for the guy who`s landed the cleaner punches yet spends 3minutes running which naturally means he`ll be able to land the more convincing shots i would of had dirrell beating froch also.

Johnson came to fight, chad came to win a decision. 2 of the 3 judges and myself took that into account and gave the non active rounds to the guy who was attempting to engage

[Myk_Myk]

Even scoring the fight overwhelmingly for Dawson (two judges had it 115-113), Dawson wasn't "dominating" like those nut huggers were going on about. Really it was similar to Dirrell v Froch in a lot of ways. I wonder how those judges would have scored it? Neither fighter really took much damage at all. they both looked fresh as daisies at the end. I think Dawson clearly won, but it wasn't some virtuoso coming out.

Maybe the announcers were instructed by HBO execs to really talk Dawson up if he was in control at all, to try to bolster interest in him for future fights?

[The Fightfan]

Maybe the announcers were instructed by HBO execs to really talk Dawson up if he was in control at all, to try to bolster interest in him for future fights?[/quote]

I do believe this is exactly what is happening with most of the HBO fight's anymore.There really isn't no one on the horizon who is a stellar HBO ticketseller so I do think they are trying to sell whoever and whatever they can to the fans to get some bigger payday's. I mean for real Dawson said he is done fighting the older fighters who have been around forever. Then turns around after the fight and says he wants Hopkins. To me it just seemed a little funny and set-up.

[amat]

I thought the commentary was so biased in favor of Dawson I was getting a little queezy, but Dawson fought pretty much the same fight he had to fight. That's the tagline of David Haye's fight right Hammer? Johnson was much more capable, had Dawson fought any differently it would have been a repeat of the first fight (which I scored for Johnson). Hammer, I don't know how you put together a 115-113 scorecard but it was 118-111 at the very most for Johnson. Round 4, maybe 5 and 11.

If i wanna score every single round for the guy who`s landed the cleaner punches yet spends 3minutes running which naturally means he`ll be able to land the more convincing shots i would of had dirrell beating froch also.

Johnson came to fight, chad came to win a decision. 2 of the 3 judges and myself took that into account and gave the non active rounds to the guy who was attempting to engage

WTF?!?! Yes, please explain to me how "running" naturally means you are going to land the cleaner punching. If that was the case wouldn't 2 fighters be "running" all the time? WTF Hammer, THAT'S HOW YOU SCORE FIGHTS! You land cleaner more effective punches and you win. It's called footwork man, go back and watch their first fight. That's a fight you can actually score for Johnson. What was the difference between the two fights? It wasn't the jab, the combinations, etc it was that when Dawson stopped moving his feet, Johnson was getting inside on him and hurting him with his right hand. Dawson fought brilliantly, it might not have been exciting but it's what he had to do to win the fight. He completely took away Johnson's left hand with the foot movement and just focused on the right hand. It was a very good gameplan that he only got away from a few times in the whole fight. Seriously, that's how you score fights

I'm beginning to think you aren't as smart as I thought you were.

[JazMerkin]

If i wanna score every single round for the guy who`s landed the cleaner punches yet spends 3minutes running which naturally means he`ll be able to land the more convincing shots i would of had dirrell beating froch also.

Johnson came to fight, chad came to win a decision. 2 of the 3 judges and myself took that into account and gave the non active rounds to the guy who was attempting to engage

This has to be one of the best posts at Saddo's in the boxing talk section. Someone completely demonstrating a lack of understanding of how to score boxing & how it works. I don't know if you've ever boxed competitively hammer, but it is considerably harder to punch cleanly & effectively if you're going backwards at speed. It is much easier to do if you're coming forward as long as you are within range to connect with your opponent (guess what kind of range you're in if you're running back). Btw clean & effective punching is one of the criteria on how to score a round.

This will tell you how it's done, if you don't know how to properly score a fight, there's no point doing a scorecard.

How to Score a Professional Boxing Match: The Four Criteria Judges Use for Scoring a Fight | Suite101.com

As it is, I do agree with you that HBO were on Dawson's dick, as they always are with 'their' guys, although I think I had it 117-112, can't remember exactly as it was such a shit fight. Were you drunk for this one as well as the Haye fight?

[CFH]

I thought the commentary was so biased in favor of Dawson I was getting a little queezy, but Dawson fought pretty much the same fight he had to fight. That's the tagline of David Haye's fight right Hammer? Johnson was much more capable, had Dawson fought any differently it would have been a repeat of the first fight (which I scored for Johnson). Hammer, I don't know how you put together a 115-113 scorecard but it was 118-111 at the very most for Johnson. Round 4, maybe 5 and 11.

If i wanna score every single round for the guy who`s landed the cleaner punches yet spends 3minutes running which naturally means he`ll be able to land the more convincing shots i would of had dirrell beating froch also.

Johnson came to fight, chad came to win a decision. 2 of the 3 judges and myself took that into account and gave the non active rounds to the guy who was attempting to engage