Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

[miron_lang]

Put ODLH or Hatton againsed Cotto at 147

Now think a little while..............

What are you thinking?

Cotto by decision againts that DLH

but why Cotto-Hatton @147?

Pac fought Hatton @140

Cotto TKO Hatton @147
I'll take Hatton at 140

[:::PSL:::]

Cotto will be in a situation where he doesn't know what to do. His corner is so green, that he's basically training himself. He will be surgically picked apart. It will be a one-sided bloodbath.

[El Kabong]

Cotto is going to win and here's my reasoning.

#1 Cotto is a legit welterweight, he's not going to be weight drained
#2 Cotto has shown he can BOX vs someone dangerous
#3 Cotto has a good chin and better defense than he's given credit for, look what Margarito had to do to stop him.
#4 Cotto has big time power and he isn't afraid, but he's also not stupid


When we get in situations where we as boxing fans are going to get a "Superfight" but all the pieces have to fit together perfectly for it to happen, it usually gets spoiled by something and I think in this case Miguel Cotto is EXTREMELY dangerous for Manny Pacquiao.

[mad_takamura]

Cotto is going to win and here's my reasoning.

#1 Cotto is a legit welterweight, he's not going to be weight drained
#2 Cotto has shown he can BOX vs someone dangerous
#3 Cotto has a good chin and better defense than he's given credit for, look what Margarito had to do to stop him.
#4 Cotto has big time power and he isn't afraid, but he's also not stupid


When we get in situations where we as boxing fans are going to get a "Superfight" but all the pieces have to fit together perfectly for it to happen, it usually gets spoiled by something and I think in this case Miguel Cotto is EXTREMELY dangerous for Manny Pacquiao.

those reasons alone will eradicate any excuses after the fight if any, don't you agree?

[El Kabong]

...well there's the lingering question "is Miguel Cotto back to where he was before the Margarito fight?"

I think Cotto is fine, if Pacquiao does whup him it will be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done at 147

[mad_takamura]

...well there's the lingering question "is Miguel Cotto back to where he was before the Margarito fight?"

I think Cotto is fine, if Pacquiao does whup him it will be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done at 147

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

[El Kabong]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

[mad_takamura]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

posters like you are rare nowadays. i hope most of the guys after the fight will see through your point. i agree with you that even if they say cotto was tko'ed by margacheato,that does'nt take away the fact that he's the bigger guy and if pac wins against him all credit is due for the smaller guy. i mean pac went all the way from 105 to get to this weight class to face a very durable, skilled, stronger and younger opponent. it really pisses me off that some posters here would make an early assessment that the pac team "cherry picked" cotto because he's already damaged goods from cheato, actually preparing for an alibi if ever cotto loses. this are real haters who wouldn't admit they are and would try to deny it. win or lose pac is good for boxing, weather they like it or not. nobody has tread history the way pac did it right now, gunning for his 7th belt in diff. divisions! that alone makes me salute him. so is cotto, if ever he wins, will get my respect and much admiration. i like him even before, he's humble like pac and i will support him too for his next bouts in the future, win or lose.

[Rantcatrat]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

If Pac was to beat Cotto in any manner, it is more impressive than anything Floyd has done at welterweight. Gatti, Baldomir, Hatton at 147, Marquez at 147, and Mitchell, don't compare with Cotto at welterweight.

I agree entirely on your last sentence.

[Puya]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

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Any ways good post

[mad_takamura]

...well there's the lingering question "is Miguel Cotto back to where he was before the Margarito fight?"

I think Cotto is fine, if Pacquiao does whup him it will be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done at 147

btw, change that to "lingering excuse."

[The Congressman]

I think team pac will use the DLH fight strategy. Like Oscar, Cotto is a natural lefty in conventional stance. I expect Pac to spin Cotto around and pop shot him all night till Cotto's eyebrows bleed and go for the kill.

Pac TKO at 8.

[fanjohn]

This is my first post and I'm not sure if I would be welcome here. Anyway here it is.

I think this will boil down to who has the better preparation/training and having the most feasible strategy/gameplan.

Pacquiao might be a little distracted with his extra curricular activities during training but he seems to handle things like this very well. I think PAC has the better sparring sessions working with bigger and powerful sparring partners. Cotto prepared for this fight in a longer duration (12 weeks) but it seems he doesn't have the best possible sparring sessions. He's sparring with smaller men (jr. welters) maybe thinking that PAC is a "smaller" opponent.

I think strategy and gameplan also favors Pacquiao. With a veteran coach/trainer on his side, PAC enjoys the advantage of having an excellent strategy/gameplan going to the fight. PAC is a 54 fights veteran and a 16 years pro. He has seen it all already while Cotto is a 35 fights veteran and 8 years pro. Cotto's trainer, Joe Santiago might be on his side for already a long time but he still lacks the experience of calling the shots on his own. Cotto will mostly do what he wants to do and not depend on his present trainer/corner.

With that said, I'm going with Roach's prediction on this one. An early KO or a late (9th/10th) round stoppage. PAC and Roach has a strategy to end the fight quickly in the early rounds by exploiting Cotto's habits or "mistakes" and using PAC's much superior speed. If that won't come then PAC will be more patient and will frustrate and break down Cotto slowly until the stoppage in the late rounds.

In almost every PAC fight, my predictions were PAC via TKO win due to cuts. It could happen on this fight.

[BIG H]

This is my first post and I'm not sure if I would be welcome here. Anyway here it is.

I think this will boil down to who has the better preparation/training and having the most feasible strategy/gameplan.

Pacquiao might be a little distracted with his extra curricular activities during training but he seems to handle things like this very well. I think PAC has the better sparring sessions working with bigger and powerful sparring partners. Cotto prepared for this fight in a longer duration (12 weeks) but it seems he doesn't have the best possible sparring sessions. He's sparring with smaller men (jr. welters) maybe thinking that PAC is a "smaller" opponent.

I think strategy and gameplan also favors Pacquiao. With a veteran coach/trainer on his side, PAC enjoys the advantage of having an excellent strategy/gameplan going to the fight. PAC is a 54 fights veteran and a 16 years pro. He has seen it all already while Cotto is a 35 fights veteran and 8 years pro. Cotto's trainer, Joe Santiago might be on his side for already a long time but he still lacks the experience of calling the shots on his own. Cotto will mostly do what he wants to do and not depend on his present trainer/corner.

With that said, I'm going with Roach's prediction on this one. An early KO or a late (9th/10th) round stoppage. PAC and Roach has a strategy to end the fight quickly in the early rounds by exploiting Cotto's habits or "mistakes" and using PAC's much superior speed. If that won't come then PAC will be more patient and will frustrate and break down Cotto slowly until the stoppage in the late rounds.

In almost every PAC fight, my predictions were PAC via TKO win due to cuts. It could happen on this fight.

Of course you are

[fanjohn]

This is my first post and I'm not sure if I would be welcome here. Anyway here it is.

I think this will boil down to who has the better preparation/training and having the most feasible strategy/gameplan.

Pacquiao might be a little distracted with his extra curricular activities during training but he seems to handle things like this very well. I think PAC has the better sparring sessions working with bigger and powerful sparring partners. Cotto prepared for this fight in a longer duration (12 weeks) but it seems he doesn't have the best possible sparring sessions. He's sparring with smaller men (jr. welters) maybe thinking that PAC is a "smaller" opponent.

I think strategy and gameplan also favors Pacquiao. With a veteran coach/trainer on his side, PAC enjoys the advantage of having an excellent strategy/gameplan going to the fight. PAC is a 54 fights veteran and a 16 years pro. He has seen it all already while Cotto is a 35 fights veteran and 8 years pro. Cotto's trainer, Joe Santiago might be on his side for already a long time but he still lacks the experience of calling the shots on his own. Cotto will mostly do what he wants to do and not depend on his present trainer/corner.

With that said, I'm going with Roach's prediction on this one. An early KO or a late (9th/10th) round stoppage. PAC and Roach has a strategy to end the fight quickly in the early rounds by exploiting Cotto's habits or "mistakes" and using PAC's much superior speed. If that won't come then PAC will be more patient and will frustrate and break down Cotto slowly until the stoppage in the late rounds.

In almost every PAC fight, my predictions were PAC via TKO win due to cuts. It could happen on this fight.

Of course you are

Thanks, I'm hoping for that.