Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.

[El Kabong]

...well there's the lingering question "is Miguel Cotto back to where he was before the Margarito fight?"

I think Cotto is fine, if Pacquiao does whup him it will be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done at 147

[mad_takamura]

...well there's the lingering question "is Miguel Cotto back to where he was before the Margarito fight?"

I think Cotto is fine, if Pacquiao does whup him it will be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done at 147

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

[El Kabong]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

[mad_takamura]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

posters like you are rare nowadays. i hope most of the guys after the fight will see through your point. i agree with you that even if they say cotto was tko'ed by margacheato,that does'nt take away the fact that he's the bigger guy and if pac wins against him all credit is due for the smaller guy. i mean pac went all the way from 105 to get to this weight class to face a very durable, skilled, stronger and younger opponent. it really pisses me off that some posters here would make an early assessment that the pac team "cherry picked" cotto because he's already damaged goods from cheato, actually preparing for an alibi if ever cotto loses. this are real haters who wouldn't admit they are and would try to deny it. win or lose pac is good for boxing, weather they like it or not. nobody has tread history the way pac did it right now, gunning for his 7th belt in diff. divisions! that alone makes me salute him. so is cotto, if ever he wins, will get my respect and much admiration. i like him even before, he's humble like pac and i will support him too for his next bouts in the future, win or lose.

[yvonne]

Well there's one thing im certain of,is that i cant see this going 12 rounds.Cotto will be the bigger boxer thats a fact,but i see Manny being more active and Cotto covering up alot,as he'll have too!Cotto will have the greatest chance on Manny if he can cut off the ring and coner Manny.The bookmakers have Manny as favourite but only just.Its obvious to say that for both fighters,it'll be their hardest opponants to date.

Im 52/48 on Manny.Im having a bet at the Bookmakers later.I just having a round knock out bet,but im not too sure what round to go for.Im thinking 6 and beyond and edging for manny.Its a really tight as a ducks arse kind of fight.Both fighters being in they prime and being soo heavy handed too,hard to call.Cant fooking wait for this cracker.

We Brits can watch it for free too,"Nar,nar,nar narrrrr nar!"

[Rantcatrat]

Well there's one thing im certain of,is that i cant see this going 12 rounds.Cotto will be the bigger boxer thats a fact,but i see Manny being more active and Cotto covering up alot,as he'll have too!Cotto will have the greatest chance on Manny if he can cut off the ring and coner Manny.The bookmakers have Manny as favourite but only just.Its obvious to say that for both fighters,it'll be their hardest opponants to date.

Im 52/48 on Manny.Im having a bet at the Bookmakers later.I just having a round knock out bet,but im not too sure what round to go for.Im thinking 6 and beyond and edging for manny.Its a really tight as a ducks arse kind of fight.Both fighters being in they prime and being soo heavy handed too,hard to call.Cant fooking wait for this cracker.

We Brits can watch it for free too,"Nar,nar,nar narrrrr nar!"

Why don't you think this fight is going the distance? Cotto went the distance with Clottey while working through a bad cut.

[Rantcatrat]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

If Pac was to beat Cotto in any manner, it is more impressive than anything Floyd has done at welterweight. Gatti, Baldomir, Hatton at 147, Marquez at 147, and Mitchell, don't compare with Cotto at welterweight.

I agree entirely on your last sentence.

[Puya]

what's your take on this?
from your previous post seems to me you're disagreeing on this one though. that cotto is no longer his older self.

past jennings and clottey, tell me as well, what's cotto's state now?

Well I think there are a lot of things to consider when you look at what Cotto was doing before the Margarito fight, he had been with his trainer Evangilista Cotto forever, he was undefeated, and we all know that 1st losses can be devistating to a fighter.

Since then Cotto fought Jennings who was a confidence builder for Miguel and Clottey was a very tough fight for him, but those guys are nothing like Pacquiao and those guys weren't dangerous. Cotto has been buzzed before, he's been dropped before, and he's been beaten up quite a bit, and in the Clottey fight he had to deal with a really bad cut, but he always fought back and that's the part I am hoping remains unchanged.

As I said before, if Pacquiao was to KO Miguel Cotto it would be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr has done at 147.

I think Miguel is big, he's still roughly in his prime (I mean, if Cotto gets KO'd I think that puts him out of his prime, although it doesn't change what a big accomplishment it would be for Pacquiao) and Miguel is tough, Margarito maybe even with loaded gloves(we all figure he had them loaded) had to beat him up for 11 rounds to finally stop him!! I think Miguel Cotto is fresh enough, big enough, and powerful enough to whup Pacquiao and if Pac wins I offer no excuses for Cotto, this is like Hagler-Hearns!

Hello all Sup Lyle hope u doing good.


Any ways good post

[El Kabong]

Hello all Sup Lyle hope u doing good.


Any ways good post

Hey man, I'm doing as well as I can. Thanks for the rep.

The only questions I have about Cotto aren't really about HIM so much as his "trainer". To beat Pacquiao he's going to have to execute a good gameplan, they are going to have to have had a great training camp and Miguel is going to have to be in terrific shape.

You figure despite all the commotion in Pacquiao's camp with Freddy Roach et al that Manny got in a great camp and knows he has to bring his A game because Miguel Cotto is more dangerous than De la Hoya or Hatton

[mad_takamura]

...well there's the lingering question "is Miguel Cotto back to where he was before the Margarito fight?"

I think Cotto is fine, if Pacquiao does whup him it will be more impressive than anything Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done at 147

btw, change that to "lingering excuse."