Is Nonito Donaire really the 6th best boxer in the world??

[ElTerribleMorales]

Taeth is right.

The emphasis should be on skill not records. Some fighters never even get the chance to fight a "star" fighter (beat a "star" you fly into the P4P without fail) simply because they are avoidable (don't make money sense).

Weight-classes fluctuate constantly. One minute a particular division is dynamite the next it's average.

Guzman is the best current example. There's no way half the current top ten would even live with him. But he can't be ranked because he doesn't have a "great" or current "star" name on his resume.

or it could be due to the fact that he hasn't done jack shit since beating Humberto Soto in 2007, who you fight defines how good you are, boxing isn't just skill, it's mental toughness as well, who's to say Guzman won't fold against elite opposition, he already bailed out of his biggest fight against Campbell, same thing can be said for Donaire, who (although early in his career) has already been beaten

[Kev]

Taeth is right.

The emphasis should be on skill not records. Some fighters never even get the chance to fight a "star" fighter (beat a "star" you fly into the P4P without fail) simply because they are avoidable (don't make money sense).

Weight-classes fluctuate constantly. One minute a particular division is dynamite the next it's average.

Guzman is the best current example. There's no way half the current top ten would even live with him. But he can't be ranked because he doesn't have a "great" or current "star" name on his resume.

or it could be due to the fact that he hasn't done jack shit since beating Humberto Soto in 2007, who you fight defines how good you are, boxing isn't just skill, it's mental toughness as well, who's to say Guzman won't fold against elite opposition, he already bailed out of his biggest fight against Campbell, same thing can be said for Donaire, who (although early in his career) has already been beaten

Exactly, skill doesnt automatically mean a fighter will win fights. It's just one part of a boxers makeup. To award fighters with p4p status purely because they possess skill is as flawed as saying Mike Tyson is the greatest ever because he knocked out B level fighters better than anyone else in history.

A fan like Taeth would likely look down his nose at somebody who judged a fighter soley by punching power and point out there are other attributes.

Well, its the same with skill.........