Is Nonito Donaire really the 6th best boxer in the world??

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P4P is about mythical match-ups with the size and weight leveled. That's the point of it. It is fantasy. You can't be proved right or wrong UNLESS the fighters actually fight.

If Wlad/Vitali took on Mayweather or Pac they'd kill them. The fight could not even happen, right?

But P4P (if they were the same size) Floyd or Pac would kill them, right?

That's why the emphasis should be on skill. Would you seriously back Froch against Guzman? Come on now..

It's still a process based on strict selection criteria though.

As for Floyd/Manny being the same size as Wlad/Vitali, truthfully I don't know who would win. How could you possibly predict what would happen?

Is Floyd jumping up to 6 ft 7 here or is Vitali coming down to 5 ft 7?

Does Floyd keep the same speed at this mythical weight? If so does Vitali keep the same power and length of jab? See how this is going, it's impossible to compare really and therefore the emphasis is on acomplishments.

Heavyweights arn't traditionally included in p4p assesments anyway but if they were I guess Wlad and David Haye would both have to be considerd. As much as I hate the Hayemaker, he is the former undisputed cruiserweight king and now heavyweight champ of the world. On a p4p scale if heavyweights were included I'd probably have him at number 10 even though I think his opposition was garbage and I believe there are 10 other fighters at heavyweight who could starch him.

The fact is, he has achieved what he has acheived fair and square and should be rated accordingly.

, it's flavour of the month. Look at The Ring's list (the most "credible"), beat a "star" you dive into the rankings.

Heavyweights aren't traditionally included because the heavyweight champ is meant to RULE over all other fighters from every division. P4P is to give smaller fighters a shot at competing with the king of boxing.

You don't know who would win mythical fights between Floyd/Pac-Vitali/Wlad?

How many fights have you seen where Floyd/Pac had HUGE weight/height/reach advantages over their opponents? They beat guys their own size, they move up weights to beat guys naturally bigger than them, they don't have the luxury of entering almost EVERY fight with a huge size ADVANTAGE like the Klits. The Klits don't need to be ranked P4P because they are already the rulers.

P4P is complete nonsense. You're trying to make it make sense. It doesn't.

thing is it could logically be put out, but favorites always come into play with most people and that's where conflict builds

agree though that it's mainly built on opinion