I spent five painstaking months coming up with this P4P list. I'm Ouma the Daddy.

[OumaFan]

Well he did get KO'd by an 18-5 guy.

Of course there's some subjectivity. There should be in every list. I think Calderon would beat Caballero (or more so that he's just better in general) but I don't see any point in even discussing that. If you had made up a P4P list and had Paul Williams 8 and Calderon 9 (or fuck even if you had left Calderon off) I wouldn't have cared or said a word. I just disagree with your generalizations about lower weight fighters.

[Kev]

Ok I do agree with your points there. I'm not really sure why I'm arguing as it wasn't even you who claimed Williams wasn't p4p it was somebody else

What can I say, it's just I'm a born internet warrior and once set off there is no stopping me, hence the pleas for self bans.

Im going to get some food and change my nappy now, then calm down with some nice transexual porn

[OumaFan]

I thought if anything leaving Izzy and Rafa off would be the point of contention. I literally spent 10 seconds deciding who was 8, 9, and 10. In fact I could easily change my mind and put Paul at 8 (as he's probably reaching his prime now while Calderon is on the downward slope) but I'll never do it now, noooo I couldn't bear giving off any impression that you had changed my mind