PAC Biting more than he can chew?

[Kev]

I will still side with Floyd if they fight as Floyd has proven to be simply too good for anybody he faced thus far and I think he's the slickest operator in the sport.

What last night proved though is two things. Firstly Manny IS the best challenger available to Floyd, at least from 147 lbs down and this is the megafight that needs to happen.

Secondly, and importantly, with successive wins over Oscar, Hatton and Cotto all of whom have won titles at 147 lbs Manny has proven that he is not too small.

If Floyd and Manny fight, the size factor isn't relavent imo, Manny has shown he still has power in this weight class, and that he can take their shots too. Floyd is very small for a welterweight anyhow so what we have is a pure matchup where talent and skill will decide the outcome.

For me this is great news, we know both will be able to perform to their peak abilities whether the fight is at 145 or 147 and can therefore just sit back and watch a tremendous spectacle with whomever wins getting full and unreserved credit for it.


And although I agree a 12 round decision in favour of Floyd is the most likely outcome I don't think it will be boring. Maybe not a blood and guts whirlind display like Manny's last few fights, but it will be the absolute zenith of pure boxing, technique, accurate counter punching and defense versus speed, aggression and explosive dynamism. For a true pugilistic fan it will represent the art of pure boxing in its highest form. I can't wait for this fight.

[rjj tszyu]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

[levi#1BoxingFan]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

How does anyone respond to complete nonsense? Mayweather KO Pacquiao? Your living in a total fantasy land! Your one of those few that would say Larry Merchant would KO pacquiao! "Larry's just got so much experience, I think Merchant gets rid of Pac in the later rounds!" The fact is that you never gave Pacquiao respect before and you won't ever no matter what he accompishes! Tell me, whens the last time Manny was knocked out, or knocked down for that matter? Mayweather is good, but you act like he's a knockout artist? Not trying to make waves but you must have been drunk or just thinking out your butt on this one dude!

[rjj tszyu]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

How does anyone respond to complete nonsense? Mayweather KO Pacquiao? Your living in a total fantasy land! Your one of those few that would say Larry Merchant would KO pacquiao! "Larry's just got so much experience, I think Merchant gets rid of Pac in the later rounds!" The fact is that you never gave Pacquiao respect before and you won't ever no matter what he accompishes! Tell me, whens the last time Manny was knocked out, or knocked down for that matter? Mayweather is good, but you act like he's a knockout artist? Not trying to make waves but you must have been drunk or just thinking out your butt on this one dude!

Right listen here now. I've always given Pac respect, always. I didn't think he would beat Oscar but I was wrong and he did. I thought the Hatton fight was hard one to call and I slightly leaned for Hatton and got it wrong. I said all the way upto this fight that I thought it was difficult to call as both are great fighters but i even put money on a Pac points win and was 2 minutes from being right.

But Pac doesn't react well to classy counter punchers (see the Marquez fights if you don't believe me) and Floyd is the classiest and best counter puncher in the world bar none. So to me that says Floyd is going to land on Pac reguarly and when Pac starts getting tagged thats when he gets Macho and thats when Mayweather will pick him apart. Mayweather isn't a HUGE puncher no but he can still dig and Pac hasn't been hit for a duration of time by anyone that good or that big. Cotto has been the most successfull as far as this goes but after the 4th or 5th he never landed another telling blow. We'll see anyway as far as this fight goes but i'll have a name change bet or rep bet with anyone who wants one with me taking Mayweather over Pac obviously!

[BigLuke]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

How does anyone respond to complete nonsense? Mayweather KO Pacquiao? Your living in a total fantasy land! Your one of those few that would say Larry Merchant would KO pacquiao! "Larry's just got so much experience, I think Merchant gets rid of Pac in the later rounds!" The fact is that you never gave Pacquiao respect before and you won't ever no matter what he accompishes! Tell me, whens the last time Manny was knocked out, or knocked down for that matter? Mayweather is good, but you act like he's a knockout artist? Not trying to make waves but you must have been drunk or just thinking out your butt on this one dude!

Right listen here now. I've always given Pac respect, always. I didn't think he would beat Oscar but I was wrong and he did. I thought the Hatton fight was hard one to call and I slightly leaned for Hatton and got it wrong. I said all the way upto this fight that I thought it was difficult to call as both are great fighters but i even put money on a Pac points win and was 2 minutes from being right.

But Pac doesn't react well to classy counter punchers (see the Marquez fights if you don't believe me) and Floyd is the classiest and best counter puncher in the world bar none. So to me that says Floyd is going to land on Pac reguarly and when Pac starts getting tagged thats when he gets Macho and thats when Mayweather will pick him apart. Mayweather isn't a HUGE puncher no but he can still dig and Pac hasn't been hit for a duration of time by anyone that good or that big. Cotto has been the most successfull as far as this goes but after the 4th or 5th he never landed another telling blow. We'll see anyway as far as this fight goes but i'll have a name change bet or rep bet with anyone who wants one with me taking Mayweather over Pac obviously!

What you fail to realize is, is that this is not the same pac that fought Marquez. Roach has made him a much more dangerous and skilled fighter since he fought marquez. If you want talk about opponents than Pac seems to be dominating common oppenents in much more convincing fashion than Mayweather(DLH,Hatton) so lets not even go there. Mayweather rarely throws combinations and has quite a habit of jabbing and retreating his way to victory. This wont be enough to stop manny, who will be relentless. He will stalk mayweather, and he will be the 1 on Mayweather's record.

[fanjohn]

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is an interesting fight for me. Mayweather might school Pacquiao if they fight but you can't really count Pacquiao out since this guy is very unpredictable and doing the unthinkable in his last few fights.

Jose Luis Castillo who fought Mayweather twice and sparred with Pacquiao said that Pacquiao is faster and stronger than Mayweather.

[rjj tszyu]

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is an interesting fight for me. Mayweather might school Pacquiao if they fight but you can't really count Pacquiao out since this guy is very unpredictable and doing the unthinkable in his last few fights.

Jose Luis Castillo who fought Mayweather twice and sparred with Pacquiao said that Pacquiao is faster and stronger than Mayweather.

Castillo was very good against Mayweather no doubt, but that isn't the man who sparred with Pac! Castillo is shot and has been since his brawls with Corrales. And he has been employed by Pac so he is never going to say Pac has no chance with Mayweather is he?

Also even if he is faster than Floyd, he is not as good a boxer and that will be the telling factor should they meet (i really hope they do). Can't wait to hear what PBF has to say about the fight!

[Intazzz]

OMG here we go again people. Sorry to say this but this time Im going for Pacquioa by tko. Yes its crazy but pacquiao is unpredictable thats all i can say.

[0james0]

Floyd would run, Manny would chase.

I'd go for a Pacman win on points, judges giving it to him for his more entertaining and attacking style. Mayweather would be too negative as he's to scared of getting tagged.

Floyd is the best, but I think Pacman just has too much speed and too many combinations and the pressure would be too much.

Hatton had Floyd worried at times and he's not half the fighter of Pacquiau (really should learn to spell it! )

The way Pacquiau is, it wouldn't suprise me if he took on Haye and won. Similar size difference after all between them as Haye/ Valuev.

What he has done is almost unthinkable

[0james0]

Roach's health could be an issue though. He's not getting any better, I've heard he struggled in this training. Would Manny be the same without him?

[Tysonbruno]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

[Gestapo]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

Dude, i think you just want pacquiao to lose. You're intimidated by a small guy beating up big guys. Why be a crybaby demanding 147? What's a 2 lb difference to whine about? Can't muster a guy who climbed from 106?

For one thing, Floyd is just going to use his dancing skills. Roach is already saying it now. Floyd's ego won't let anyone tarnish his zero record, he'll dance the night away when he gets in trouble. Perhaps do a new version of Cotto's bicycle backpedal dance steps.

Remember, marquez was the smaller man. But big 'ol Floyd can't dispose the little guy from Mexico to do a decision. Pac was the smaller guy who keeps "biting more than he can chew", and yet he ended Cotto by a demolition.

And besides, only pacman can make opponent's wives/girlfriends cry.

[iwng100]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

So, you admit Floyd is bigger than Pac?

[fanjohn]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

Floyd's last weigh-in weight was at 146 lbs. (supposed to be 144 but he paid money for 2 lbs. more). Pacquiao's last weigh-in weight was at 144 lbs. They could start negotiations at 145 lbs. and if Floyd wants it at higher weight then he has to pay penalties.

I think purse split is the hardest part in the negotiations. I also favor a 50/50 split but I think one camp will demand a higher share. I have no problem with this fight having a 51/49 purse split.

[Gandalf]

Pac/Mayweather needs to happen now. Manny has proven he really can hang with and take apart the big boys. It's a fight fans need to see, and I wouldn't rule out Manny from even taking it.

Marquez obviously couldn't handle the higher weight what with being old and struggling to carry it up, Manny on the other hand appears to have really grown into the thicker weights well. I can't see Mayweather stopping Pac and I struggle to see Mayweather outlanding him. Pac might very well have a chance to pull this off.

Manny appears to have become quite savvy and able to execute a strategy very well. He can also adapt according to the needs of the fight, like Mayweather can. It would be a fascinating clash of styles and strategies. It needs to happen.